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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2011, 07:29:46 AM »
Hey all-

I've been using the DR-07 ... The cheesy plastic power button broke,

How have you did this   :o

Someone already tested it with the internal mics (they promised 125db SPL) ?
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2011, 10:54:20 PM »
Hey all-

I've been using the DR-07 ... The cheesy plastic power button broke,

How have you did this   :o

Someone already tested it with the internal mics (they promised 125db SPL) ?

>> referring to my old dr-07.... just happened during regular use.   the power button has to be held for a couple seconds to power up... somehow the plastic button broke off and went inside the case of the unit.   

i was able to macguyver it for awhile and power up by inserting a paperclip into the hole and touch the contact, but this is a tricky process and i would prefer to be ready to record at a moments notice.

>> about the dr-05... not concerned about the spl's on the internal mics.    i want to know unity gain so that when i use external mics i am using as little preamp from the dr-05 as possible.   i would rather get the gain i need from my ca-9100.

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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2011, 05:03:14 AM »


>>  somehow the plastic button broke off and went inside the case of the unit.   


But now it´s failsafe against unwanted Power - Off :D


Maybe i getting the DR-5 und will run it with my CA gear also .. but also testing the internals ... maybe a bit waiting if the first ones are shipped and tested - EU release will be april 2011, i ran the DR-07 with around 6 on the gain wheel ... let´s see.
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2011, 01:18:01 AM »
used the DR-05 for the first time on st. patty's.   my usual CA14 omnis > CA9100 > DRxx (44/16)   had the recorder preamp set to 0, and the CA-9100 on less than half way up to get a good level so i can't see ever needing the preamp gain from the DR-05 unless using the built in mics.

also on a good note, i had the recorder powered up for 5-6 hours total with the 'stock' batteries and still is at full power.  that's a promising sign for some great battery life.

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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2011, 02:52:25 AM »
I might get 1 of these to play around w/ too. I think it will work fine behind the LittleBox....
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2011, 07:05:13 AM »
Is the preamp on the Dr-5 as good as either the Sony M10 or Tascam Dr-2d?

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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 10:47:42 PM »
I might get 1 of these to play around w/ too. I think it will work fine behind the LittleBox....

:lol:

I'm not sure the basis of your assertion, but I'd keep those input transformers dis-engaged if you get the tascam and the gain at the absolute minimum.  Assuming you're planning on recording PA amplified music anyway.
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2011, 03:44:03 AM »
I might get 1 of these to play around w/ too. I think it will work fine behind the LittleBox....

:lol:

I'm not sure the basis of your assertion, but I'd keep those input transformers dis-engaged if you get the tascam and the gain at the absolute minimum.  Assuming you're planning on recording PA amplified music anyway.

I have ONLY ran w/ the IN Xformers dis-engaged. I havent even had the chance to use the IN xformers
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2011, 10:14:43 PM »
here's audio from my 3-17 recording using the DR-05...

http://www.archive.org/details/bk402011-03-17

loving the extended battery life and more solid feel of the DR-05.

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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2011, 10:41:54 PM »
wow.  that sounds great!  gives me some faith in the 05

here's audio from my 3-17 recording using the DR-05...

http://www.archive.org/details/bk402011-03-17

loving the extended battery life and more solid feel of the DR-05.

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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2011, 12:37:33 AM »
Yeah, Im sure I could use one behind my LB
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2011, 08:18:22 AM »
here's audio from my 3-17 recording using the DR-05...

http://www.archive.org/details/bk402011-03-17

loving the extended battery life and more solid feel of the DR-05.

Were the drums mic'd? I love the sound of the kick.

Do you think the record level control on the DR05 is post-AD converter?

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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2011, 11:15:32 AM »
If the specs for the DR-05 are accurate, I wouldn't add more than 6-8db of gain from an external preamp with this recorder if you're recording PA amplified music, better yet, add no gain at all.

With the overload of the DR-05 and typical condenser mics, if you add 6-8db of gain with a preamp, that should allow you to record up to about 118db SPL's before you overload the DR-05 inputs.  118db sound levels are certainly high, esp with A-weighting, but unweighted sound pressures of 118db particularly with pumping low frequencies from subwoofers at a show really isn't too hard to hit.

Which is what I was getting at with the LB, esp with tranfo's engaged.  With the input tranfo's the LB has a minimum gain of 18db, without them, the minimum gain is 6db.  It would really be best to run the LB at the minimum gain to avoid any overload distortion on the DR05.  A little easier with the Church 9100, since iirc it is 20db max gain, and I think the gain goes down to 0db at the minimum.
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2011, 03:45:08 PM »
Yeah, exactly Todd, Id have to run at +6db min gain on the LB. W/ the R09/M10, I can run it at 12'oclock or higher :)
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Re: Tascam DR-5
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2011, 09:49:30 PM »

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Were the drums mic'd? I love the sound of the kick.

Do you think the record level control on the DR05 is post-AD converter?

The drums were mic'ed, but what you are hearing is all stage volume.   I record on-stage with omni's.   They are placed in center of the stage so the vocals and horns are being picked up from the stage monitors and the drums, bass, fiddle, guitars are being picked up from stage volume directly from the amps and drums.   The mic position definitely lends itself to great drum sounds, (they are only a few feet away in proximity) however sometimes the vocals and stage left/right guitars can get muddy depending on how good the on stage mix is.

I really have no idea about the A/D converter.   Using the external mics and preamp, the signal was quite hot, so the internal record level for me will always stay on '0' and any gain will come from the CA9100 preamp.   As mentioned earlier in this thread, my biggest concern will be with not overloading the inputs on the DR-05.  I set this recording to peak at about -20db and boosted the signal in Audacity.   No overloading on this recording, so I will likely keep the settings around the same next time out.



 

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