Topic: Recording issue from a show I taped last night

[George]

Hey everyone,

           I taped ani difranco last night at town hall and experienced a sound-related problem.  This occurred several times in the first half of the recording then cleared up.   

Please take a listen to the samples...sound like brick walling?  I had the tinybox set to medium and the rec volume dial set to 5 on the M10.

Levels looked fine for the most part until her sound guy kicked it up a notch at her request towards the end of the show.

[danlynch]

Seriously?  You want help after ripping vanark for actually helping you and then locking the topic.

 

[dorrcoq]

Seriously?  You want help after ripping vanark for actually helping you and then locking the topic.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

[acidjack]

Sounds to me like something is physically touching the mic, or wind.

Or it could be a bad cable.  But I don't think it's brickwalling.

[George]

Seriously?  You want help after ripping vanark for actually helping you and then locking the topic.

 

Vanark contacted me via pm afterwards and he cleared the air and I apologized.   

Hey acidjack, I'm gonna set up the rig again tomorrow and test it with the sweater I wore (I had the mikes clipped inside the sweater collar). 

[acidjack]

Seriously?  You want help after ripping vanark for actually helping you and then locking the topic.

 

Vanark contacted me via pm afterwards and he cleared the air and I apologized.   

Hey acidjack, I'm gonna set up the rig again tomorrow and test it with the sweater I wore (I had the mikes clipped inside the sweater collar).

I am almost positive that is what you're hearing on the recording.  To put it bluntly, that's a terrible placement.  And assuming you're running B3s, totally unnecessary.  They won't be visible on glasses or at least ouside on your shirt.  I would not put them inside any piece of clothing, at least not in any configuration where any part of of the mic that picks up sound is touching or near fabric.

[George]

I guess I've been extremely lucky then.   

[acidjack]

I guess I've been extremely lucky then.   

In all seriousness, probably so!

[George]

Just a quick update, yup, its definitely the sweater.   I plugged in my headphones to see what it sounds like and man, lots of noise, even when I turn around.  Time to attach them to my glasses for my next show 

[F.O.Bean]

Just a quick update, yup, its definitely the sweater.   I plugged in my headphones to see what it sounds like and man, lots of noise, even when I turn around.  Time to attach them to my glasses for my next show 

Exactly what I would do. I just scored a Kangol tho, so if I EVER STEALTH again, it will be w/ Schoeps mk41 or Busman BSC2s

[it-goes-to-eleven]

the sweater I wore (I had the mikes clipped inside the sweater collar).

Those soft fuzzy sweaters, too magical to touch
If they rub against your mics is really just too much

[adrianf74]

Just a quick update, yup, its definitely the sweater.   I plugged in my headphones to see what it sounds like and man, lots of noise, even when I turn around.  Time to attach them to my glasses for my next show 

That or to a black hat (if the mics are black.  I run my 4061's on a black ballcap with the clips from Len @ Core Sound... never an issue and people don't even notice them (they notice me taking pictures with my Canon G11 instead).

[George]

Yeah, I was thinking a black baseball cap.  A kangol would be entertaining...yup, the B3's are black.  Funny thing is, I wore the 853's on my glasses once...that was not a pleasurable experience!

it-goes-to-eleven, yeah, you know it!  My thin black jacket was the worst though...polyester is a bitch.  I couldn't believe how much noise was consistent being made by it as I moved around while the mikes were clipped to the collar.   

Years ago I used to roll with a black leather jacket (nice sturdy collar for the win) in cool weather...hence the lack of noise in previous recordings. 

[adrianf74]

Black Baseball Cap with some gaffers tape to stick the mic cables down (or suitable clips) on the brim is what I do.  I've run my CA-14's in a similar fashion without an issue.   

I had brought my CA-14's to Prince last month and forgot my ballcap. Ended up ripping part of my e-ticket and used it to protect my glasses while I' put them on closest to the lens.  Wasn't ideal but had to do what I had to do.

[acidjack]

Yeah, I was thinking a black baseball cap.  A kangol would be entertaining...yup, the B3's are black.  Funny thing is, I wore the 853's on my glasses once...that was not a pleasurable experience!

it-goes-to-eleven, yeah, you know it!  My thin black jacket was the worst though...polyester is a bitch.  I couldn't believe how much noise was consistent being made by it as I moved around while the mikes were clipped to the collar.   

Years ago I used to roll with a black leather jacket (nice sturdy collar for the win) in cool weather...hence the lack of noise in previous recordings.

I wouldn't bother with the K hat.   Black ballcap or glasses will do the trick and look way less goofy

[danlynch]

Hey, I resemble that remark!

[Belexes]

Kangol airvent's are a non FDA approved form of birth control. 

[George]

lmao! 

hence the entertaining remark about kangols...they are goofy! 

(ducks and runs)

[adrianf74]

I wouldn't bother with the K hat.   Black ballcap or glasses will do the trick and look way less goofy

"White folk don't wear Kangol."   

[acidjack]

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Your K hat looks like a black ballcap, unlike hi and lo and I with our air vents

[Gutbucket]

If you do need to or want to wear miniature omnis under fabric, be selective about what fabric you choose and consider using something like the DPA 'concealers' for the 406x which keep the fabric from rubbing directly against the capsule grids.  If you don't move around much, that combination can work very well for seated gigs and allow for creative mic positioning that can work in your favor.