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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #150 on: July 14, 2008, 07:10:20 AM »
I'd need your help guys.

Anyone has tried a 16 CF card, bought on ebay?

I've looking many brands (Speedy Adata, Trascend, OEM brands) but don't know which one to pick.

SO if someone has installed a 16CF card, any info would be appreciatted.

Thanks,
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #151 on: July 14, 2008, 03:14:23 PM »
sure...

AData Speedy isn't really that speedy, and I've heard some good things about the transcend cards.... My AData card was bought via ebay (but the turbo or whatever type, not the speedy). The transcend 32GB seems to be quite good for its price

good luck ;)

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #152 on: July 14, 2008, 03:29:43 PM »
sure...

AData Speedy isn't really that speedy, and I've heard some good things about the transcend cards.... My AData card was bought via ebay (but the turbo or whatever type, not the speedy). The transcend 32GB seems to be quite good for its price

good luck ;)

I've got a transcend 4GB already installed in my second iriver. So I'm gonna get a 16GB CF Transcend card. Don't really think that I'm gonna record that long.

Thanks for the tip.
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #153 on: July 14, 2008, 05:36:24 PM »
Is the card speed an issue for the transfer times only?  Recording a 16/44.1k wave is going to only need so much speed and apparently the slow 'speedy' is doing that well enough. 

I had my freshly modded h120 out on Saturday to record some steel drum samples and various ambient sounds.  It rode around in my backpack on my bicycle all day and nothing came loose so that was a good durability test.

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #154 on: July 14, 2008, 06:06:03 PM »
Is the card speed an issue for the transfer times only?  Recording a 16/44.1k wave is going to only need so much speed and apparently the slow 'speedy' is doing that well enough. 

I had my freshly modded h120 out on Saturday to record some steel drum samples and various ambient sounds.  It rode around in my backpack on my bicycle all day and nothing came loose so that was a good durability test.



Well, Card speed is an issue for read and write to CF. Don't know the MB/Seg of the buffer on the iriver, assuming that every 3 minutes is writing to the CF. Anyway, I was told that any CF from 120x "in crescendo" should work fine.

And of course, a better speed for read will give short transfer time to HDD
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2008, 03:24:17 AM »
There have not been any tests to see what is the slowest card that can handle recording. But as I'm a busy man and my recordings always go over 1GB, I rather like having faster transfer times :D

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2008, 01:59:07 PM »
Thanks for all the info...  looks interesting.
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2008, 02:10:32 PM »
jonbo, glad you got your 50 posts.   :P
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2008, 03:02:36 PM »
I'd need your help guys.

Anyone has tried a 16 CF card, bought on ebay?

I've looking many brands (Speedy Adata, Trascend, OEM brands) but don't know which one to pick.

SO if someone has installed a 16CF card, any info would be appreciatted.

Thanks,

As i wrote a few posts before, i did not suceed with the transcend 133x 16gb  although i followed the instructions exactly (so i took a sandisk 8gb; just copied rb from the 16gb to the 8gb - works fine - so i think this must be a special problem with this card, although it works fine in the pc or the camera)... anyone other experiences?

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2008, 05:02:00 PM »
As i wrote a few posts before, i did not suceed with the transcend 133x 16gb  although i followed the instructions exactly (so i took a sandisk 8gb; just copied rb from the 16gb to the 8gb - works fine - so i think this must be a special problem with this card, although it works fine in the pc or the camera)... anyone other experiences?
If you get an ata-80 error I assume you have the wrong bootloader - yes I know it's a bit of a trick at the moment....

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #160 on: July 17, 2008, 04:43:38 PM »

yes, ata-80 error...
I used the 7pre4 bootloader from the link that Arni99 has mentioned in his instruction in this thread (on page 9)
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/IriverFlashing?rev=1;filename=bootloader_h120_7pre4.zip
isn't that the right one? As i wrote, the same worked on my sandisk-card ???
is there another option?
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #161 on: July 18, 2008, 03:39:41 AM »
Nope... too old

I just checked and it seems there is no newer bootloader for h1x0, I'll have to see if somebody can put one online to make this process a bit easier

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #162 on: July 20, 2008, 12:21:55 PM »
I'd need your help guys.

Anyone has tried a 16 CF card, bought on ebay?

I've looking many brands (Speedy Adata, Trascend, OEM brands) but don't know which one to pick.

SO if someone has installed a 16CF card, any info would be appreciatted.

Thanks,
Yes, I got the 280x OEM 16g card from this guy: http://myworld.ebay.com/fastmemoryman
Fired up the first time and works great. Cheapest I have been able to find.
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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #163 on: July 20, 2008, 12:51:38 PM »
Yes, I got the 280x OEM 16g card from this guy: http://myworld.ebay.com/fastmemoryman
Fired up the first time and works great. Cheapest I have been able to find.

Who makes the cards he is selling?

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Re: iRiver H120 CF Mod Attempt - Success!
« Reply #164 on: July 21, 2008, 08:11:23 AM »
For those considering which CF card to buy...

I started out looking for Sandisk cards (as they have a good reputation) on eBay, but then I noticed that all the sellers who have good prices (compared to retail stores) and do show actual images of what they're selling (not just stock photos) are simply selling counterfeit CF cards - so then I decided that it would be better to buy a cheap card (the Transcend 133x) from a reputable store (newegg.com). Also, I decided to go with only 133x (as opposed to Transcend's 266x line) because in my testing I've noticed that my iRiver H320 is limited to transferring data at about 11-12 MB/s when either reading from or writing to it (that appeared to be processor limited as the hard drive is specified to transfer data at up to 31 MB/s, and because most hard drives don't have a flat transfer rate [see just about any review that includes sequential transfer rates at storagereview.com]), and the Transcend 133x has been tested to read/write at 34 and 15 MB/s - faster than I am able to transfer data to/from my iRiver's hard drive.

(In testing by copying large files from my iRiver to my PC, I get 10.89 MB/s with the hard drive for 5 GB of data [7m 50s], and 11.76 MB/s with the flash card for 1.84 GB of data [2m 41s]. I haven't done any thorough write tests with the CF card in my iRiver, but it appeared to be getting about 9 MB/s while looking at Task Manager - which admittedly is lower than the 11-12 MB/s I would get while writing to the hard drive. I don't use my iRiver to transfer files between computers so write speed isn't that important, though one interesting thing I have noticed is that while recording with the hard drive it would spend about 6 seconds writing the buffered data to the hard drive [after 2m 28s recording at 16-bit, 44.1KHz, stereo], but with the CompactFlash card it would spend 21 seconds(!) writing data to the card for some odd reason... [it makes less noise on the recording (using an external analog input) when using the CF card, but still...])


Also, as mentioned on the CFModGuide, if anyone's interested in a different CF adapter which should fit better (as both connectors are on the edges of this adapter rather than one on the top and one on the edge; though it costs more) there's the PA-CF18T. The Rockbox page only lists the UK seller for this adapter, but there's also this company which sells it in the US for $24 (though you have to contact them as you can't buy it from their site). Though as it appears that you guys are doing fine with the cheap adapter and the H100 iRivers, and as that cheap adapter does fit the H300 series with modification, this is probably only for those of you who want the adapter to fit right in the H320 without having to modify it.


GrandMasterMark, have you seen this page? I haven't looked at that seller's feedback, but considering how low his feedback score is and how low the price is on the cards he's selling (compare to this 8 GB 280x professional CF card for $244 from amazon.com) it wouldn't be surprising to find out that your card is either/both not the capacity/speed that you were sold...
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