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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #285 on: February 04, 2006, 10:21:58 AM »
Damn, at $1300, that becomes quite close to the cost of a used V3 + MT, which might be a better route to take.

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #286 on: February 04, 2006, 11:22:37 AM »
isn't a V3 $1300?

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #287 on: February 04, 2006, 11:35:22 AM »
isn't a V3 $1300?

Aberg references a used V3.  Several have gone for $950 to $1100 without the optical out. 

$950 + $300 MT + CF card or microdrive.
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #288 on: February 04, 2006, 12:47:05 PM »

Talk to Doug before you get  >:(, I'm sure he will work with you. I had agreat transaction with my ACM 660.

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #289 on: February 04, 2006, 12:50:25 PM »

Talk to Doug before you get  >:(, I'm sure he will work with you. I had agreat transaction with my ACM 660.

Doug is going to fix it for me  :)

Great to hear...now let us know when you post your first recording...I can't wait for the Heat>671 sound!

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #290 on: February 04, 2006, 02:01:10 PM »
I gave my stock 671 up in trade for an ACM660.
going to shelf 24bit for a while. 

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #291 on: February 04, 2006, 04:03:25 PM »
isn't a V3 $1300?

Aberg references a used V3.  Several have gone for $950 to $1100 without the optical out. 

$950 + $300 MT + CF card or microdrive.

Yeah, exactly. Since you'd need a CF card in either case, you have to wonder whether the used v3 + mt combo sounds better than an ACM 671.. I'd like to hear that comparison at 24/48.

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #292 on: February 04, 2006, 04:17:26 PM »
i'm sure the analog sections would be close.....if not slightly better w/the Oades.  but the v3 a/d section...no comparrison there.

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #293 on: February 04, 2006, 04:20:46 PM »
i'm sure the analog sections would be close.....if not slightly better w/the Oades.

I've yet to hear an Oade-modded analog stage that sounds better than the V3, so I'd be a bit surprised if that was the case here.

but the v3 a/d section...no comparrison there.

Agreed - V3 RAWKS!!  :P

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #294 on: February 04, 2006, 04:31:07 PM »
the V3 is all that...and a bag of dorritos isnt it.

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #295 on: February 04, 2006, 05:17:17 PM »
I gave my stock 671 up in trade for an ACM660.
going to shelf 24bit for a while. 


I was so close to bailing on the ACM 671.
I'm going to be real bummed if Doug jacked the price up to $1300 for that mod.
I was  thinking $1200 was a bit steep, but $1300...  :(

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #296 on: February 04, 2006, 05:41:23 PM »
the V3 is all that...and a bag of dorritos isnt it.

To my ears, yes.  But what I was getting at with the Oade-modded gear not quite stacking up to the V3 is something along these lines...

I'm a BIG believer in the mods the Oade Bros perform.  I've owned a digi-mod UA5, a warm-mod UA5, and now a transparent-plus UA5 - all of which provided significant improvement over the stock unit.  I'm simply stunned at the T+, especially in unamplified situations - to my ears (no measurements taken), it's as quiet as the V3 at very high gain, and quieter than the 722.  I'm thrilled with how the Oade mods not only changed the sonic characteristics, but also so dramatically reduce the noise floor.  I far prefer the T+ UA5 with my 414s than the V3, due mostly to the sonic characteristics of the T+ mod (given the noise floor to my ears is equal v. the V3).

However, even the T+ doesn't quite compare to the V3 in subtle ways - soundstaging, for example.  Through no fault of the Oade Bros mods, mind you!

The V3 (like similar devices in its class) was designed and engineered from the ground up as an uber-HQ portable preamp and ADC with very few (serious) shortcuts implemented in the final product.  The gear the Oade Bros modify, in it's original state pre-mod, typically is not designed and engineered by the manufacturers from the ground up as uber-HQ gear.  The manufacturers make fairly substantial, readily audible compromises and shortcuts.  If they didn't, the gear wouldn't need modifying.

Anyway, all this blathering to put it another way:  you can take a Saturn sedan and swap out a bunch of mediocre parts with high performance/quality parts, but it still won't quite compare to the (IMO) super nice and HQ Volvo S60 - the low level, detailed engineering simply isn't there in the Saturn, regardless of the parts swapping.

All that said, I'm open to the potential for the mod-671 to top out the V3, but based on the above comments and previous listening I'm skeptical it will.  If it does - great!  More HQ options for recording gear is a Good Thing.
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #297 on: February 04, 2006, 05:52:01 PM »
where is the marantz  24 bit version of 660?

I have been hoping they would offer 24bit pre/ad in a small package


would be the perfect bit bucket for a V3 too....
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #298 on: February 04, 2006, 05:57:45 PM »
where is the marantz  24 bit version of 660?

I have been hoping they would offer 24bit pre/ad in a small package


would be the perfect bit bucket for a V3 too....

PMD 671 does 24 bit
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field...
« Reply #299 on: February 04, 2006, 06:00:06 PM »
and would still be a great bit bucket.
the price on the stock units has dropped, though I dont know how much.  It is certainly in the same price class as a new Sony M1 was.  MUCH cheaper than a dappy was/is.

 

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