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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2006, 09:25:24 AM »
OK, so I did my first show last night with the new 671. A couple small issues. First, I couldn't get the thing to come off of rec/pause. I thought that the manual said to hit the play button after rec/pause, to use the preroll buffer. I couldn't get it to work for me so I just used the red slider thing. Also, and this kind of sucked, the hold switch locks out the margin reset button. That needs to be fixed or it's pretty much worthless to me. Just what I need, unlock the deck and reach for the hold switch and accidently hit a different button. It's only a matter of time before this happens. Anybody have different expereriences? All things considered, the 671 worked very well and I am pleased with my purchase.
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2006, 09:43:34 AM »
i run mine in the porta brace upright in the bag, so i have not used the hold feature. to use the pre-roll buffer, press the record-pause button then slide the red record button to the right. how does it sound?
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2006, 11:05:54 AM »
OK, so I did my first show last night with the new 671. A couple small issues. First, I couldn't get the thing to come off of rec/pause. I thought that the manual said to hit the play button after rec/pause, to use the preroll buffer. I couldn't get it to work for me so I just used the red slider thing. Also, and this kind of sucked, the hold switch locks out the margin reset button. That needs to be fixed or it's pretty much worthless to me. Just what I need, unlock the deck and reach for the hold switch and accidently hit a different button. It's only a matter of time before this happens. Anybody have different expereriences? All things considered, the 671 worked very well and I am pleased with my purchase.

In the dark, I too have worried about hitting the stop button, which is dangerously close to the margin reset button.
I may put a piece of glow tape under the margin reset button so I can see it in the dark. Dre is right about the pre-roll, just use the red slider from rec/pause and you'll be fine. I may have to get some clear but dark colored plastic to put over the screen though. It's pretty damn bright when it's lit.
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2006, 09:18:54 PM »
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Neil, I'm a bit confused.
I don't use the wallwart. Do you think it's a sled issue or is it the middle metal tab that is between the two DC contacts on the recorder side that is the problem? I figure that tab is a switch, as I hear it switching when it is depressed.
I've never owned a product that depleted batteries when the device is completely turned off. To me, this sounds like there is a problem  Huh?
Anyway... For now, it's an inconvienience, not a deal breaker for me.

my comments about wallwarts and battery issues applies ONLY to the 430 cassette deck... sorry for any confusion. i do not see any issues like that with the 671. just other ones...

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Do you think it's a sled issue or is it the middle metal tab that is between the two DC contacts on the recorder side that is the problem?

as to the 671, i believe it all relates to the NiMH batteries and the sled.

the middle metal tab is for recharging the NiMH Marantz battery pack, that is why a 15v charger is required

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I've never owned a product that depleted batteries when the device is completely turned off.

i have not seen issues with batteries being "used" by a deck when the machine is off. now if one battery in the set of 8 is weak or not the same capacity, the others will try to charge it. i use the LaCrosse BC900 charger recommended by doug. i have noticed that  almost none of my batteries are within 10% of their mA rating.... some are grossly off. i do not know if it is the brand or what. maybe i will try doug's recommendation for brand. in the meantime i have a 12v 8AH SLA as well as the LiION pack of the same capacity but weighng only 1.3lbs instead of 6lbs. either fits nicely in a side pouch and powers the DMX P01 and 671 combo for 5+ hrs. i am ok with using the externals because my bag (camera type) does not lend itself to battery changes esp for the 671.

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2006, 06:11:37 PM »
went looking at the Hyperdrive as well as the pd70X. looks like they are the same unit. under accessories for the Hyperdrive (HD80) i found this part: Replacement Control Slot Dust Cover (for HD80/PD70X)  it is the sled/cardholder for insertion into the CF card. same for both devices. they both look the same... gonna order one this weekend. will advise

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2006, 08:13:02 PM »
check this link out

http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM

good info for AA NiMH batteries

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2006, 08:18:15 PM »
went looking at the Hyperdrive as well as the pd70X. looks like they are the same unit. under accessories for the Hyperdrive (HD80) i found this part: Replacement Control Slot Dust Cover (for HD80/PD70X)  it is the sled/cardholder for insertion into the CF card. same for both devices. they both look the same... gonna order one this weekend. will advise

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #97 on: March 06, 2006, 12:22:20 PM »
I have an update on the internal sled/NiMH AA issue.

I've had a re-occuring issue with the batteries in the sled discharging over time in the recorder.
Originally, I thought just putting the AA cells in the sled and putting the sled in the 671, that over time the recorder would discharge the batteries. Even if it was turned off. We'll, I put some Duracell 2500 mHa NiMH in the sled and left them for a week. No problems, they were fine after a week. Then I plugged in the external AA battery pack I made (with no batteries in it) and left the sled in and after 30 hours, the internal sled batteries were fully depleted! I checked the external pack for a short, and it is operating fine.

After seeing the results of this test, I would recommend not plugging in an external pack until you are ready to use it.
Looking back, I believe this is what has been my problem all along, having batteries in the sled and having an external battery pack pluged in at the same time. BTW, if there are batteries in the external sled, they get depleted as well.

When I have the time, I'm going to test the external jack to see what is going on with it...

To me, this is good news, as I was thinking that there was a problem with the 671, that it would deplete batteries, in the sled, without even being turned on!
« Last Edit: March 06, 2006, 12:28:19 PM by Chuck »
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #98 on: March 09, 2006, 08:35:20 PM »
Just jumped on the 671 bandwagon after my D8 started having issues.  Perfect excuse to go 24 bit :-)  Hope to break it in Friday night.
I made up a power cable tonight (thanks to chuck for the info)  in preparation for the first run.  Next one will be a 90* connector, but this is what I had laying around...

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #99 on: March 09, 2006, 08:41:36 PM »
Just jumped on the 671 bandwagon after my D8 started having issues.  Perfect excuse to go 24 bit :-)  Hope to break it in Friday night.
I made up a power cable tonight in preparation for the first run.  Next one will be a 90* connector, but this is what I had laying around...



Congrats... on the 671. Let us know how you like it.
+T for making your own power cable.
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2006, 09:17:28 PM »
Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity.  There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.


http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2006, 09:44:24 PM »
" (approximately 3GB of backup with fully charged battery)"  hmm....
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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2006, 10:04:59 PM »
Just jumped on the 671 bandwagon after my D8 started having issues.  Perfect excuse to go 24 bit :-)  Hope to break it in Friday night.
I made up a power cable tonight (thanks to chuck for the info)  in preparation for the first run.  Next one will be a 90* connector, but this is what I had laying around...





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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #103 on: March 10, 2006, 12:52:49 AM »
Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity.  There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.


http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp

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Re: Marantz 671 in the field... Part 2
« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2006, 01:15:26 AM »
Here is a less costly portable strorage device that you might like to consider! It is only 20GB but is inexpensive and should handle anything short of weekend festival as 20GB at 24/96 will give you just under ten hours of capacity.  There are others out there if you look under camera accessories.


http://www.inoi.com/English/storagedevice.asp

Got one...it works great.

doesnt list the cf>hd transfer sped, the quick ones are at 16MB/sec, anything slower may not transfer in time between sets, you'd be scramblin' between sets but YMMV, i have no first-hand experience, just research to determine that :)
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