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Title: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: CQBert on December 10, 2005, 12:09:32 PM
The new toy arrives today...  will run on normal AA's for a while but need a resolution for real power.

I am new to the battery game and would appreciate advice.  I have run SLA's w/V3 and Camcorder Bats with 722 but not sure how to power this thing..

Not sure if 12v or 6v > owners manual not 100% Clear... should be the same plug set up as the DAP-1.

Thanks in advance for input..

CQBert

PS - Pictures will be up in Rig Shots by later tonight!
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 10, 2005, 02:15:22 PM
Looks like from the manual the AC wallwart puts out 12v, so...I'm guessing it requires a 12v external power source.  That sucks, IMO.  But...maybe we'll luck out and it'll run on a broader range, including 9v.  And if so, I like the 9v Li-Ion batts marketed for DVD players, a la the Walmart / Lenmar DVD-U9 / Initial RB-270 batts.  For 12v power, I don't know of a better solution than lead, unfortunately.  But maybe others do...  ???
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: 284201 on December 10, 2005, 04:07:54 PM
For 12v power, I don't know of a better solution than lead, unfortunately.  But maybe others do...  ???

http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2052

I use one of these to power my pre and a/d, and it's a hell of a lot nicer than lead.  I actually use the 5000 mAh model, but I can't seem to find it on their site anymore.

You could probably get away with one of the 4500 mAh units, but I'm not sure how much the Tascam draws or how picky you are about extra juice.  FWIW, I can run my 316 and my Mini-Me for a little over 5 hours on the one I've got.

You will have to put together your own cable with one of those Tamiya connectors, but that's a piece of cake. 

If you've got a box that only likes 12V (like I do), I think this is a really great option.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: CQBert on December 10, 2005, 05:44:37 PM
Great - I will begin from there and keep the board updated... 

Pictures in a few minutes.. just opened it..

CQBert
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: hammerhorror on December 10, 2005, 06:26:07 PM
Found this online: http://store.yahoo.com/laptopsforless/prunbaforpod.html (http://store.yahoo.com/laptopsforless/prunbaforpod.html)

It has a 12v setting. Maybe it would work.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: brianp on December 10, 2005, 08:55:04 PM
please report back to us on how this thing runs in the field, looks promising. thanks
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: stober on December 10, 2005, 08:56:31 PM
How long will rechargable  AA's last?
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: stober on December 10, 2005, 09:22:07 PM
website says you can get 5.5 hours off AA's.Need more record time than that?
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: CQBert on December 10, 2005, 09:35:09 PM
It is the cost of the AA's that is daunting...  will be looking into rechargables but even they are not ideal in large quantity.. hoping for a Wal-Mart type of solution..  have to see..

Will run on AA on TUE with phantom to hte U89's... report forthcoming.

CQBert
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: bluegrass_brad on December 10, 2005, 09:49:00 PM
It will be interesting to see if they improved the pre's or just threw in the old DA-P1 pre.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: Kevin Straker on December 11, 2005, 12:17:46 AM
looking to join this team soon. +t and let me know now it comes out.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: CQBert on December 11, 2005, 09:05:29 AM
Oade has already begun work on the XLR in Mod... currently unnamed and not priced.  They anticipate having it avaialble early 2006. 

CQBert
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 11, 2005, 09:34:48 AM
Oade has already begun work on the XLR in Mod... currently unnamed and not priced.  They anticipate having it avaialble early 2006. 

CQBert

nice, hopefully he adds mods to the sonics ala the wmod/tmod/pmod, or at least something like an ACM mod
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: drewloo on December 11, 2005, 12:26:47 PM
Looks like from the manual the AC wallwart puts out 12v, so...I'm guessing it requires a 12v external power source.  That sucks, IMO.  But...maybe we'll luck out and it'll run on a broader range, including 9v.  And if so, I like the 9v Li-Ion batts marketed for DVD players, a la the Walmart / Lenmar DVD-U9 / Initial RB-270 batts.  For 12v power, I don't know of a better solution than lead, unfortunately.  But maybe others do...  ???

The manual says that it'll also run on Firewire power between 8-40 volts.  Maybe it's not that picky about its power.  Looks like one might be able to construct a firewire cable that'll work w/ the li-on 9v batteries.

I think the power management screen is very cool.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: Brian Skalinder on December 11, 2005, 02:39:07 PM
The manual says that it'll also run on Firewire power between 8-40 volts.

Cool, I missed that in the manual.  Shouldn't be too hard to run a 9v Li-Ion batt through the appropriately pinned IEE1384 connector.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: momule on December 12, 2005, 08:47:31 PM
"The Battery Volts nominally should be 10 or above.  The provided AC adaptor provides approx 12 volt VDC."

Making me believe 12 volts is recommended,   And at Only 600 mA  something like this (http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1494) should run it for 7+ hours.  No reason for anyone to carry lead anymore.


Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: johnw on December 13, 2005, 02:48:19 PM
Not 12V (14.4) but similar to Walmart battery.
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1642 (http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1642)

Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: oleg on December 15, 2005, 03:11:51 PM
Not 12V (14.4) but similar to Walmart battery.
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1642 (http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1642)




BE CAERFULL , THE OUTPUT MIGHT FRY YOUR RECORDER , THAT ONE GIVE 16.8 V AFTER CHARGING , I DONT SURE THE TASCAM CAN HANDLE IT !!!
might be good as 9v sours if tascam is still running on that external voltage ( looks to me it would but with warning about low voltage )

Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: CQBert on December 15, 2005, 04:38:18 PM
I have an email into Tascam but not expecting much...  request was for nominal voltage requirment..  9v or 12v mainly.. 

Will post their reply.

Thanks to all !

CQBert
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: pippas on December 16, 2005, 04:15:16 PM
It will be interesting to see if they improved the pre's or just threw in the old DA-P1 pre.

There's a couple of files here http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/2b95724af5c1a537/58066d10ca548e61?q=tascam+hd+p2#58066d10ca548e61

of the noise floor, with shorted XLR's at different gain settings --- doesn't tell you what the pre's are actually going to sound like - but it's a start!
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: stober on December 16, 2005, 06:22:10 PM
For me I'm not concerned what the pre-amp sounds like because I have a m148 and a V2.I'm curious what the A/D conversion is like.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 17, 2005, 04:32:34 PM
CQBErt-Any word about optimal voltage requirements ???
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: CQBert on December 17, 2005, 05:25:59 PM
Nothing From Tascam yet... hopefully early next week.  If I do not hear by TUE I will push the inquiry to Oade and get their thoughts.  Since they have the thing apart and are working on stuff power issues are most likely on the list of things to confirm when altering the guts.

CQBert
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 18, 2005, 02:58:51 AM
+T, Thanks for the update ;)
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: kevin p on December 21, 2005, 07:30:41 PM
Just waned to post the run times I got with this set of 2250mAH Powerizer rechargables from batteryspace.com http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1530 (http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1530)

Going line-in from the M148 using compact flash @ 24/48, with the headphone output off and backlight off, and naturally the phantom was off, I got just shy of 5 hours by about 2 minutes. This was on the second cycle of the batteries, I was recording the television with the gain cranked.

The power readings in the settings menu showed it pulling just over 11 volts via firewire, just over 10 volts via the batteries and just under 12 volts via AC.
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: bdasilva on January 20, 2006, 12:28:41 PM
One 12V SLA battery (think Eco-Charge style) with the proper input connector wiil charge up to 13.6vdc  and down to nothing. Do you think you could run the unit with this setup.  I'm inclined to say yes but...  say 12V/7ah and a battery tender jr. ???
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: dueling on January 28, 2006, 12:13:00 PM
I run the eco-charge EC-90 (B-906V 12 volt and 6 volt), and am currently just using it for my V3 (6v).  I'm guessing yes, but to confirm, would I be able to run the HD-P2 off of the 12v out at the same time?  Does anyone out there make a cable to do this yet?

Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: RebelRebel on January 28, 2006, 09:18:38 PM
I run the eco-charge EC-90 (B-906V 12 volt and 6 volt), and am currently just using it for my V3 (6v).  I'm guessing yes, but to confirm, would I be able to run the HD-P2 off of the 12v out at the same time?  Does anyone out there make a cable to do this yet?

Thanks for the help

Yes I have a dual one too , use one to run my mytek and the other out to run my mixer..... Ed can make a cable. www.kindkables.com great guy, good service, good prices.

Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: bdasilva on February 04, 2006, 06:09:08 PM
Will the Tascam handle a raw 13.5vdc from a SLA battery?
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: F.O.Bean on February 07, 2006, 09:07:54 AM
Will the Tascam handle a raw 13.5vdc from a SLA battery?

should be fine, even 6v slas arent at 6v, they should be at about 7-7.5v fully charged

the same goes for 12v slas, theyre fully charged float around 13.5-14 v

so yes that should be fine

if your batts hit exactly 6v or 12v, guess what, they just died on you
Title: Re: Tascam HD-P2
Post by: bdasilva on February 08, 2006, 12:11:55 AM
+T (like you need another Ticket) For the answer... I figured that was the case but I just had to know.  Yes at 12vdc the battery is down but the HD-P2 should run on past there.... Now that I know I won't kill anything, I'll try and let you know. Again... Thanks     Brian