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1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« on: June 08, 2013, 05:10:47 PM »
I have taped a few bands in this awesome format, but seeing as Blu Ray doesn't support specs that high... There are no programs (that I know of) that support these export specs.

Does anybody know of a good soft that can handle this task? I have tried Adobe Premiere pro Cs6, Sony Vegas 12, and Womble mpeg video editor.

If this is impossible, would I be better exporting to 1280x720 @ 60 fps, or 1920x1080 @ 29.97? Which is better for file integrity?

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2013, 08:09:16 PM »
Bluray supports 1920x1080p 59.94 fps


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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2013, 09:25:22 PM »
I was just going on what was said at adobe forums... I can't find anything to author these files in full format.  :facepalm:

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 10:56:15 AM »
Does it need to be Blu-ray?
I tape in this format too and always create a MKV file wich can contain 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s and lossless audio in e.g. flac or wave.   
You can also make chapters for the MKV file.

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2013, 03:16:24 PM »
I've been playing around with Vegas studio HD platinum, and been able to export a .mp4 file in full quality. No chapter points, though. also only 1 selectable audio track in the final file. What software are you using? M4V sounds like a better option.

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 10:03:57 PM »
Vegas pro 12 for editing
http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ for making an MKV
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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 04:09:14 PM »
What would be the best option for export in Vegas? Do you convert to mkv afterward?

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 07:45:42 PM »
What would be the best option for export in Vegas? Do you convert to mkv afterward?

It's a bit difficult to explain for me but here are some points:

MKV is no converting, it's merging of two or more files. MKV is a container for files just like AVI is a container.
The best export option in Vegas therefore depends on the source material you want to merge.

I keep the same bitrate as the video part of the masterfile and merge it with lossless audio. Flac or wav.
You can check the specs of a file with a free program called mediainfo: http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

Once you know the specs of the file you want to merge into an MKV you know the export option in vegas. If vegas doesnt have a template you have can customize one into the specs you need.
If you render audio seperate (from a source other than the audio from your videofile) Find out how much Mbps of the videofile is for video and how much is for audio.

I prefer main concept over sony. I render a .MP4 file wich I merge with a flac or wav audio file by using mkvtoolnix. I make chapters with this tool as well.
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power ca-ubb | ca-9200 | nbob actives > baby nbox | schoeps cmbi (pair)
recorder roland r-05 
video panasonic zs100 | panasonic hdc-sd600 | sony hx9v | sony hx50v | samsung s23 ultra
playback fiio m17 > final d8000

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 11:53:34 PM »
Good to know, thanks!

My files are .MTS from a sony hd camcorder, and I have been exporting to mp4 anyway. I have also used mediainfo a few times, so your advice affirms that I'm on the right track!

So I edit and export to mp4 in Vegas... and merge the external audio I taped in mkvmerge, obviously exporting to .mkv>

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2013, 07:15:30 AM »
Good luck! Let me know if you have anymore questions. I will try to answer them as good as possible.
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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2013, 09:58:40 PM »
Thank you, I sure will. Will it work if I follow what I said in my last post? I need to do a fully lossless export.

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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2013, 06:42:55 AM »
Use 29.97
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Re: 1920x1080p 59.9 fp/s
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2013, 07:39:34 PM »
Kind of defeats the purpose of shooting in 59.9... I want no loss of quality. That would drop half of the frames from the originals.

 

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