Topic: AT853 distortion?

[Steelcorner27]

Ok I having kinda a weird problem with my Sound Pro AT853 (full size caps) using the SP-SPSB-1 9v batt box now when I run them thru my MD they work perfectly no distortion at all now when I run them thru my d8 Im getting distortion mic in and line in alike triing them with and without a -20db attenuator, So I went ahead and sent my D8 to oade brothers for the pre amp mod and still the same problem. Now your thinking something wrong with the D8..nope I hook my CSB's or my Sony mic to it and it works just fine..so then its the batt box, no I used the sony mic with it and again the AT's work fine with the MD.

So what is the deal is the AT853 and Sony D8 just a bad combo Im pulling my hair out here, why do the work with the MD and not the DAT? WTF

Help!

[Steelcorner27]

Do I need the phantom 48v for the full size caps to work right?

[shroominhumpy]

What record setting were you using with the MD? SP LP2 LP4? I am thinking that the limited frequency response of the MD may have cut off any low frequency distortion of the AT853s with the battbox...so you were getting roll off without knowing it. Since you now have dat you are getting the full frequency range and the full gambit of distortion.

Jason

[Steelcorner27]

My MD is a old MZ-R37 so I dont even know what the setting is I just set the level at or around 12db So in what your saying there is a problem with the AT mics

[Steelcorner27]

Ive used this DAT for many recordings and never had this problem withe the csb's or sony mic I dont understand Ive heard so many good recordings withe 853's

[leegeddy]

Ok I having kinda a weird problem with my Sound Pro AT853 (full size caps) using the SP-SPSB-1 9v batt box now when I run them thru my MD they work perfectly no distortion at all now when I run them thru my d8 Im getting distortion mic in and line in alike triing them with and without a -20db attenuator, So I went ahead and sent my D8 to oade brothers for the pre amp mod and still the same problem. Now your thinking something wrong with the D8..nope I hook my CSB's or my Sony mic to it and it works just fine..so then its the batt box, no I used the sony mic with it and again the AT's work fine with the MD.

So what is the deal is the AT853 and Sony D8 just a bad combo Im pulling my hair out here, why do the work with the MD and not the DAT? WTF

Help!

you should really use the -20dB pad with min-in.

marc

[Steelcorner27]

well i put in a couple more hours of testing and have come to the conclusion that these mics are just to sensitive for mic in Ive tried with and without -20 same results Ive called Oade brothers they say with the modified pre amp they put in I shouldnt even need -20 with most mics but had not tested my type. I can now run my csb's up to just before 0db without brickwalling with the new preamp but not the AT's so I guess Ill just go line in at the shows tonight and wait to hear back from anyone who can solve this mystery.

Thanks
Brad

[John Kelly]

Wait, you're running the Mics > batt box > Mic In on the Dat???  When I had this rig I *never* ran mic in, always line in.  Mic in would always clip my deck.

[Sean Gallemore]

we said he ran line-in too with the same problem.  At this time, I have no answer

[Sean Gallemore]

we said he ran line-in too with the same problem.  At this time, I have no answer.  Are you getting *full* levels running into the MD?  I'm almost certain it's a power issue but I can't say 100%

[John Kelly]

Oh, try plugging the mics directly into the mic in of the md.  Not at a show, just testing at home or something.  See if you still have problems.  If so, it may be the mics.  If not, probably the battery box...

[Steelcorner27]

Well I recorded 2 shows Sat. night line in and they came out ok I guess those mics just wont work mic in good thing I just paid for that mod. pre amp. Oh well mabey I can use it later with another set of mics. Now I just have to go phantom and shit can the 9v system. Anyone use that Denke ps2 unit?

[ashevillain]

have you considered trying batt. box > attenuator >mic in?

or isn't there a battery box with an attenuator switch on it made for just this purpose? or am I hallucinating again.... 

[Sean Gallemore]

does this distortion only occur with loud music?

[Steelcorner27]

>>>>have you considered trying batt. box > attenuator >mic in?

Oh ya Ive tried attenuater -20 realy no effect

>>>>does this distortion only occur with loud music?

vocals are good guitar is good bass and drums distort, thats ok Ill just run these line in im geting phantom anyway so its a dead issue anyway I bought a set of dpa 4061 well see how they work mic in.