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Offline Just Taper Mark from NC

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so now i've got the soundcard installed. UPDATE
« on: January 09, 2006, 08:47:14 PM »
big ups 1st of all to my boy cliff(ashevillian)for the sweet deal on the m audio 2496! ;D

I have never opened up any of my boxes in the past so I'm stepping into a whole new realm
here and want to make sure I won't f0ck anything up.go ahead and laugh now  :P

will it be obvious where I need to plug it in when I do pop the top or being a virgin at this
will I be lft standing here going :hmmm: or should I just wait for my frind josh to come down
and hook me up in a couple weeks when he can swing by? I'd really like to play around with
this thing but don't want to wind up having to buy a new hard drive or something.

and yes,I do know enough to shut off the computer and unplug if before I get started :P  ;)
« Last Edit: January 15, 2006, 10:10:21 PM by Mark S. »
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard,what to do and how?!
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2006, 09:10:15 PM »
Mark,

First thing.  It is easy...all you need is a little instruction on what to do.  You will not fuck anything permanently by trying any of this except by eletrical static  The most important thing is to get a wrist grounding device so you do not shock anything and fry it, or touch the computer case or metal frame every 10-20 seconds to discharge excess charge.

What OS are you running?  You got onboard sound (sound from your mother board or a seperate soundcard in the PCMCIA slots)?  If you have onboard sound (usually in cheaper computers), you gotta disable after you set everthing up with the new card.

Do you have the CD ROM that comes with it?  If not grab the latest drivers from M-Audio's website (save them to your drive, make note of where they are).  Turn off the computer and plug the card in (make sure the card is seated well in the slot for this is a common mistake of not seating the card properly), after you restart, the computer asks you that it has found a new device, you need to point out where the drivers are to it when it asks (of course you remembered where you DLd them to or point out the CD loaded in your tray if you have that).   

When you have done all this, go to control panel and select sound and audio devices.  Choose your recording device to be the new AP2496 card.  Then use something simple like CDWave to capture (again in options you must specifiy that you are choosing the new AP2496 card to do the recording).  You need to tweak with the M-Audio card mixer controller, specify the sample rate, lock clock to audio device and the I/O designation (I forgot how that looks and where it shows up....I just remembered to make a shortcut to my start up tray).  If you get sound recorded, it is a start.  Once we get there and there are problems like pops and shit, we'll figure all that out when the problem arises.

Just go for it, you are not gonna fuck anything up beyond repair.

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Re: so now i've got the soundcard,what to do and how?!
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2006, 09:21:03 PM »
I guess I have onboard sound ??? it's just an emachine so I wouldn't guess anything else
so if I understand you right andy I just shove the card into an empty slot make sure it's
seated good and close her up making sure the whole while to keep a good ground or
discharge off my static so often. if that's the case then piece of cake,it's a start.

and yes I did get the driver cd's with it but we'll deal with all that after I plug it in and
turn the compuetr back on,thanks.
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard,what to do and how?!
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2006, 09:38:05 PM »
Quote from: Mark S. on January 09, 2006, 09:21:03 PM
and yes I did get the driver cd's with it but we'll deal with all that after I plug it in and
turn the compuetr back on,thanks.

The drivers on the cd will most likely work fine but it's usually a good idea to use the most recent ones from the M-Audio website...I forgot to mention that before.  As for physically installing the card in the box...it's just legos. It can only fit (easily) in one type of slot (PCI)

Also I would disable the onboard sound before you shut down to install the card. (if i remember correctly...My Computer > Device Manager > select the onboard sound > right click - disable)
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard,what to do and how?!
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2006, 09:55:22 PM »
okay,so I got into device manager and click on the audio and disabled SoundMAX digitsl
intergrated audio,it was the only thing of all the audio thingys that had a disable come up
and so far it seems to be it so I guess I'm going to power down and crack this baby open  :-\
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard,what to do and how?!
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2006, 10:35:29 PM »
damn,that was easy! had josh on the phone walking me through just in case.I used
the driver disc and will go to m-audio for updates,it loaded and when it was done a
little window popped up and said new hardware was installed and ready for use so I
guess I need to go find it and see for sure.

edit: so everything is installed and I have an m-audio delta control panel down on my
tool bar and it opens up so I can make those changes but when I open the control
panel>sound and audio devices when it shows the volume there is no way to adjust it
for the speakers,making sense?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2006, 11:50:46 PM by Mark S. »
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2006, 12:15:52 AM »
My card (Delta Dio 2496) has it's own control panel to control I/O levels. there should be a little pyramid M-Audio icon in the tray. Double click that and it should bring up a control panel. Perhaps the same for you?
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2006, 10:20:14 AM »
Make sure that you change the settings in your playback software to output the audio to the Audiophile.
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2006, 03:27:51 PM »
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Make sure that you change the settings in your playback software to output the audio to the Audiophile.

 ??? remember who you're dealing with here cliff :P

 
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My card (Delta Dio 2496) has it's own control panel to control I/O levels. there should be a little pyramid M-Audio icon in the tray. Double click that and it should bring up a control panel. Perhaps the same for you?


yeah steve,I have that but not sure what to do with it once I click it and it pops that screen up,looks like what
you posted.

edit:when I go in to device manager and look @ this thing it says it's not "digitally signed" and windows is telling me
it needs to be in order to work,so what do I do?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2006, 04:09:57 PM by Mark S. »
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2006, 06:12:19 PM »
Quote from: Mark S. on January 10, 2006, 03:27:51 PM
edit:when I go in to device manager and look @ this thing it says it's not "" and windows is telling me
it needs to be in order to work,so what do I do?

I have no idea what that means...

I wish I could be of more help but I don't have a Windows system in front of me and I've forgot alot of Microsoft stuff since I went to Mac.

edit: actually one thing that might help is some screenshots so we can see what you are seeing. I think the Windows shortcut is Ctrl + PrtScn....someone else correct me if this is wrong. alt + prtscn
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2006, 07:31:10 PM »
It's Alt+Print Screen (PrtScn) ...and I can totaly understand the whole Mac transition thing. My very thoughts, as I have to be at the (Windows) box to remember where everything is.

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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2006, 08:10:06 PM »
well shit,now the control panel won't open and device manager says there's no
audio driver now :banging head: and I can't get them to reload. I'm going to
stop before something goes wrong and just wait on josh to come by in a few
weeks.
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2006, 09:34:25 PM »
okay okay. so after doing some reading over at m-audio in the knowledge base it appears
I messed up by installing the card and then trying to download the drivers which apperently
doesn't work  :P

soo I unplugged the card,plugged the comp back up and went back to  m-audio and downloaded
the updated drivers,shut off the comp and plugged the card back in and hooked everything back
up and completed the install as instructed and I now have my control panel back  :) so I am going
to leave it alon until someone tells me what settings to make in everything so I don't screw up
again  :P thanks for the help so far!
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2006, 09:55:02 PM »
so after another phone call to the all knowing it appears I need to plug my speakers into the
soundcard and not the stock port in the box like before  ::) jeez cliff you could have told me
this when I was at your house yesterday :P

so luckily I had a rca>mini cable and a barrell and low and behold I have sound from my speakers
again!! ;D so now to figure out how to get some transfering done ;)
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Re: so now i've got the soundcard installed but no sound?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2006, 12:58:38 PM »
Congrats, Mark!! One thing to watch when transferring is that the bit/sample rate settings on M-Audio control panel and in the software you're using to record the transfer match the bit/sample rate of the source. Otherwise you'll get a message like "source not found" or something like that.

Also, occasionally, Windows being the wonderfully stable environment that it is ( ::)), you will get a message after a reboot that says to the effect that the M-Audio panel was not found or did not start, and the control panel icon fails to appear in the tray. In my case, all I have to do is find the tray icon executable, double-click and it starts up, no problem. On my system, the file is named delttray.exe; and it's located in the system32 folder.
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