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Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« on: October 19, 2004, 12:30:29 AM »
 I did a search and didn't find any postings on this.

 Does anybody have an idea on how to remove the vocals out of a recording? My sister in law asked me to convert a tape to CD and then remove the vocals. She's trying to make a special gift for her Mother, who happens to turn 80 on the 28th.

 Thanks,
           Russell
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2004, 02:03:58 AM »
all i can say is if you want to completely remove vocals, your looking somewhere in the 2-5 or so khz range
which would effect guitar, drums, etc... in that same range, if you want to take them out, your gonna
sacrifice sound quality and it might sound weird, post some more details about the recording and i might
be able to get a better idea about what you are working with, and in no way is this analysis confirmed about
the vocal specs, just a guess from info ive read numerous times before, it could be depending on the persons
voice, anywhere from 2-7khz range, let me know if i can be of any further help or hinderance!
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2004, 07:50:25 AM »
Thanks Chris,
 I just fired off and e-mail to seek more info. I'll update this thread as soon as I get the info.

 Russell

PS: sorry to push you over "69" tickets  ;)
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2004, 05:21:40 PM »
I ran across a free plugin for removing vocals - haven't tried it yet.  Lemme see if I can find the link...

Here it is http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio/vremover.htm

again - I haven't used it but this guy write tons of really cool little apps.  This is a direct-x plugin so you should be able to get it going with your favorite editor.
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2004, 07:01:53 PM »
I did a search and didn't find any postings on this.

 Does anybody have an idea on how to remove the vocals out of a recording? My sister in law asked me to convert a tape to CD and then remove the vocals. She's trying to make a special gift for her Mother, who happens to turn 80 on the 28th.

 Thanks,
           Russell

russell;

you could try this method. 

i. invert R channel.
ii. subtract R from L = new L
iii. subtract L from R = new R

this is sometimes called "Vocal Cut". the theory behind this method is that the main vocal signals in studio recordings are essentially pretty even in both channels. inverting one channel and subtracting one channel from another in both channel would essentially cancel out the frequencies dominated by the vocals.

CEP has this function in the Effects > Amplitude > Channel Mixer menu.

Karaoke time, eh?  ;D

marc
 
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2004, 11:57:56 PM »
dklein and marc
 great help. I'm gonna fool with each approach this weekend. I'll let you know what I like the best.

 Karaoke time? Sorta  ;D A little skit my Sister N Law and her sisters (all five of 'em), will be doing for their Mothers' Birthday.

 +T you guys. Thanks again.

 Russell
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2007, 04:47:48 PM »
sorry to ressurect an old topic...

but...

i am wondering if there been any kind of progress made on this front (aka new, free plugins, etc.)..?

i will try the subtraction method, too...
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2007, 09:21:31 PM »
well, there are some plugins out there that claim to do this sort of thing but the results are questionable.  You can download some freeware/shareware programs to try here:  http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/

The "subtraction method" is just phase cancellation, it might work to some extent but it's also going to delete any other frequencies that are occurring simultaneously in both channels.  I'd give the freeware a shot if I were you. 

For best results just try to find a karaoke version of the song and use that...or find a midi version and arrange it with Reason or some other program that has capable midi instruments.
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Re: Taking Vocals Out of a Recording
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2007, 09:51:13 PM »
Out of curiosity, what song are you looking for?  My dad has a big karaoke setup and a bunch of music.  Maybe he's have it.

 

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