Topic: Mk4's with an NBox running open

[darktrain]

Ok now that i got these coming, what is the simplest/least expensive way to run these open(maybe a few times a year), did some searching and not really sure what is what and is there any good DIY ideas or pics floating around as a alternative.

[DSatz]

Darktrain, I strongly recommend a slightly spaced arrangement with cardioids unless perfect mono compatibility is a requirement for some reason (which would be rare nowadays).

The ORTF method is one such approach that works well in a very wide range of applications. This involves spacing the capsules 17 cm apart and facing them outward at a total included angle of 110 degrees. The stereophonic recording angle of a setup like that is ca. +/- 49 degrees.

Schoeps makes a relatively inexpensive accessory called the "STC" which holds two capsules on Colette cables at this distance and angle, but you can also rig up this type of arrangement by other means.

--best regards

[darktrain]

Darktrain, I strongly recommend a slightly spaced arrangement with cardioids unless perfect mono compatibility is a requirement for some reason (which would be rare nowadays).

The ORTF method is one such approach that works well in a very wide range of applications. This involves spacing the capsules 17 cm apart and facing them outward at a total included angle of 110 degrees. The stereophonic recording angle of a setup like that is ca. +/- 49 degrees.

Schoeps makes a relatively inexpensive accessory called the "STC" which holds two capsules on Colette cables at this distance and angle, but you can also rig up this type of arrangement by other means.

--best regards

Thanks that some of what i was wondering, any non schoeps brand that does the same or any homemade plans just so i can see all the options ideas

[Shawn]

a kwon bar does the same sort of thing with different stereo configs. You can PM kwonfidelity for more info.

[DSatz]

Right, there's Kwon, and Shure makes a very nice (if somewhat heavy) mounting gadget called the A27M which is useful for this and many other coincident and near-coincident arrangements with two microphones. It's not limited to any one type or brand of microphone, or any one recording technique, and highly recommended.

http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/Accessories/us_pro_A27M_content

To use it with your MK 4 capsules on Colette cables (which I'm told is what an "NBox" works with) you would need 5/8" to 3/8" thread adapters, which are cheap and easy to find. Do you have Schoeps SGC stand adapters for your capsules?

http://www.posthorn.com/S_coletteaccess.html#table5

--best regards

[Tim]

A Vark Bar with the SGC clips works well too

[darktrain]

Haven't got them yet(paid for) just planning ahead so nothing for a stand yet(have a stand just no mount), sounds like the sgc clips are probably the way to go and i actually havea homemade 17cm 3/8 bar i made a while back

[DSatz]

> would those sgc clips work with the standard akg bar [?]

They work with any standard 3/8" stand coupling. Depending on what type of stereo bar you have, you may need a pair of Things like the one in the attached photo.

(AKG's stereo bars, mike stands and boom arms are actually made by König & Meyer; www.k-m.de)

--best regards

[Craig T]

schoeps a20s shockmount (or other compatible fixed/shock mounts) with any of the following bars: schoeps stcg (ortf), kwonbar din, kwonbar nos.
schoeps m100c or vark bar with sgc clamps.

[terrapinj]

A Vark Bar with the SGC clips works well too

this will be the most cost effective and versatile method aside from DIY

[Tim]

A Vark Bar with the SGC clips works well too

this will be the most cost effective and versatile method aside from DIY

I'm not sure why that setup isn't more popular. I like the various bars but, as you said, this is more versatile and cheaper. Do people not consider it "low profile" enough?

[terrapinj]

A Vark Bar with the SGC clips works well too

this will be the most cost effective and versatile method aside from DIY

I'm not sure why that setup isn't more popular. I like the various bars but, as you said, this is more versatile and cheaper. Do people not consider it "low profile" enough?

well its not quite as hassle free to set up - with a KWON bar etc you pull it out of your bag with caps already in place and are ready to go - little more set up with the Vark bar but well worth it IMO - must have if youre running and of the "V" caps IMO

[Tim]

yes, you're right for a real low profile situation it is nice to just pull the bar out and throw the mics up

[Brian Skalinder]

well its not quite as hassle free to set up - with a KWON bar etc you pull it out of your bag with caps already in place and are ready to go

This is what I do with my Vark bar.

[terrapinj]

well its not quite as hassle free to set up - with a KWON bar etc you pull it out of your bag with caps already in place and are ready to go

This is what I do with my Vark bar.

don't you still need to fine tune the angles a bit? do they stay perfectly in place in your bag?