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Title: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: Steve J on July 18, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
I first viewed the attached picture as a fan...and then the recordist in me noticed the mic configuration. Just curious which mics they are and, for that matter, what pattern it might be. M/S? Blumlein? I thought Blumlein were supposed to use 'matched' mics. The studio is The Blue Velvet Studio in Orange County.
Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: voltronic on July 18, 2015, 05:23:57 PM
The top one is this: http://www.seelectronics.com/se-rnr1-rupert-neve-mic/ (http://www.seelectronics.com/se-rnr1-rupert-neve-mic/)

No clue about the bottom one.
Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: PH on July 18, 2015, 05:25:29 PM
Not sure what he is actually trying to record as the guitar is plugged into an amp.
MS Setup for sure.
Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: voltronic on July 18, 2015, 05:36:49 PM
The angle of the whole array is weird too.  It's well-positioned to record the music stand holding the headphone box I guess...

Slightly off-topic: I'm listening to the audio samples of that SE / Neve mic at the bottom of their product page right now.  The piano recording really sounds terrible, and the performance is even worse than the recording.  Who the heck at SE decided that would be a good demonstration of their very expensive new product?!?!
Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: flipp on July 18, 2015, 05:51:46 PM
from their mic list (https://www.thebluevelvetstudio.com/equipment.html) the bottom one might be the Lauten Audio

and this pic identifies it as such https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204871993492489&set=a.10204871990492414.1073741867.1019116933&type=1&permPage=1

Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: voltronic on July 18, 2015, 06:03:20 PM
from their mic list (https://www.thebluevelvetstudio.com/equipment.html) the bottom one might be the Lauten Audio

and this pic identifies it as such https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204871993492489&set=a.10204871990492414.1073741867.1019116933&type=1&permPage=1

Maybe an older version of that mic that they've since traded in for the current version?  In the photo posted here, the body has vent holes for cooling the tubes.  In the picture from that FB post, it has a heatsink on the back of the body instead.  Capsule end looks the same though.

It also indicates on that FB post that they're using a M/S setup for room mic'ing.  Again, with the strange angle.  My only guess is that they want the wall / ceiling reflections to hit the fig-8 off-axis.
Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: Steve J on July 18, 2015, 06:05:01 PM
The room is kind of small; and with the angling, I was thinking it might have been set up to record something off camera. It would be a good height to record Steve B's baritone sax...though I wouldn't imagine that's what this config would be best used for.
Title: Re: Identify Mics Used In This Setup
Post by: Gutbucket on July 22, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
M/S? Blumlein? I thought Blumlein were supposed to use 'matched' mics.

M/S using a fig-8 Mid = Blumlien, which is reportedly how Alan prefered to do it himself.  One advantage of doing it that way is that any mismatch between the response of the two mics manifests in the resulting recording symmetrically- between the sides and center, rather than lopsided asymmetrically- between left and right.  It allows for easy use of two different, not so closely matched mics.