Topic: TSKB: 24 bit DVD-A and a playback system

[svenkid]

TS-
I have checked the playback archives, and dabbled in the playback forum.
What Im wanting to do is a 3 step thing. These span a few different topic categories, so I figured the open forum would be the best place for this post.

1) what is a good dvd audio disc player to get (is it possible to get one that can also playback cds - probably not but..)
2) Im using Nero to burn cdr ands dvd data discs. I checked the dvd options, and didnt see a dvd-audio option, am I missing something or do I need a duifferent burning option?

Thanks for the help. I hope to be 24 bit by the Oh7

[kindms]

RE: DVD-A

wavelab will burn them. and there are a few other free applications that will also burn dvd-a

DVD-A players are capable of playing CD's and many of them can also play SACD's

players will depend on your budget. I took the advice of many on this board and went with the pioneer elite DVD player. The newer model is the 45a its MSRP is 350.00

Link to pioneer site:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069743_35168,00.html

DVD-A Software discussion
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72211.0

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

Denon and Pioneer make some nice multi format players that will play back CD, audio-DVD, and DVDA.   Audiogon is your friend.  You don't need to spend a lot of money to get in.   I have a denon but I've played with a pioneer and both produced excellent soudn out the analog audio ports.

Nero can be used to burn file structure or image to DVDA or audio DVD but you need an authoring program.  In the computer recording forum there are threads that describe a free DVD-A tool or you can buy audio-DVD creator for about $40.   I use audioDVDcreator to author the DVD file structure and Roxio to burn to media.

[bl6216@yahoo.com]

I would look at some of the MARANTZ DVD-a players. They play DVD-V, DVD-A, SACD-Multi, SACD-Stereo, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, SVCD, VCD, CD, CD-R/CD-RW, MP3, WMA, JPEG, DiVX and start at like $600 to $2,000. They are not a lot of money and they sound good for the money.


-Brian

[phanophish]

Ditto the Pioneer DVD Audio player reccomendation.  Beware of other vendors that intterupt the PCM bitstream during playback at track gaps.  Many other vendors will introduce a small gap themselves or the intteruption in the digital out causes your external D>A to have to resynch on the clock and you get a short half second or so gap.  The one drawback to Audio DVD Creator is it uses the DVD Video standard rather than the DVD Audio standard to encode the Audio.  the result is a more widely compatible lower resolution audio recording.  It still sounds good and does have some other attractive features (track names, slideshows, etc.)

This site linked in another post basically has all the info you will need....

http://24bit.turtleside.com/

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

The one drawback to Audio DVD Creator is it uses the DVD Video standard rather than the DVD Audio standard to encode the Audio.  the result is a more widely compatible lower resolution audio recording.

How does a 24/96 audio DVD-V have lower resolution than a 24/96 DVD-A? 

[phanophish]

The one drawback to Audio DVD Creator is it uses the DVD Video standard rather than the DVD Audio standard to encode the Audio.  the result is a more widely compatible lower resolution audio recording.

How does a 24/96 audio DVD-V have lower resolution than a 24/96 DVD-A? 

It's my understanding the the software will only do PCM at 48/16 otherwise you are looking at AC3 compression at higher bitrates.  Did this change?  Their site is a little sparse on details and they got rid of the forums.

http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/

I've just had good luck with Scott's software and he is also a TS.com member. 

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

It's my understanding the the software will only do PCM at 48/16 otherwise you are looking at AC3 compression at higher bitrates.  Did this change?

AFAIK, audio DVD creator has always supported 24/96 LPCM.  I've always used it for 24/96 without problems, although some people report some issues with firmware in inexpensive players.


Nothing wrong with fluffing the free tools :-), I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a misunderstanding.

[nickgregory]

It's my understanding the the software will only do PCM at 48/16 otherwise you are looking at AC3 compression at higher bitrates.  Did this change?

AFAIK, audio DVD creator has always supported 24/96 LPCM.  I've always used it for 24/96 without problems, although some people report some issues with firmware in inexpensive players.

this is my experience as well.  No issues at all

[tapeworm48]

I use the Denon DVD-1920 for playback of CDs and DVD-A etc.  so far it has worked well for me.

Ive burned DVD-A discs using Nero, after preparing them using scott brown's DVD-Audiofile.

for audio-dvd, i tried out Lplex last week, and it worked well.  it was at 24/48.  never used audio-dvd-creator.

[svenkid]

what's the consensus on using wavelab 5.01b to create the dvd-audio discs?

[scervin]

I had used the Pioneer Elite 45a for a couple years and found that to be very good for the money.  That said, I've found the Onkyo SP1000 to be much better for DVD-A/SACD, CD, and DVD playback. 

[gewwang]

what's the consensus on using wavelab 5.01b to create the dvd-audio discs?

I've been using Wavelab v5.00a to author dvd-a's for about a year now with no problems. Once I create the .iso in wavelab, I then use Nero to burn the iso image to dvd-r.

[svenkid]

what's the consensus on using wavelab 5.01b to create the dvd-audio discs?

I've been using Wavelab v5.00a to author dvd-a's for about a year now with no problems. Once I create the .iso in wavelab, I then use Nero to burn the iso image to dvd-r.

  I think I can figure that out. make an iso image thing in wav lab, save it, then use nero to burn it to a dvd-video?

[gewwang]

Here's an older thread with some steps to author or burn dvd-a using wavelab. I'm sure there's a newer thread out there but I just did a quick search and couldn't find it.

http://www.taperssection.com/index.php?topic=22351.0