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Title: Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 20, 2003, 12:03:28 AM
Gonna be running my news mics on Friday night.  I've got both the 91 and 93 caps.  I have always run cards at the venue I am going to. On these mics: old mics. (http://audio-technica.com/prodpro/profiles/ES943_C.html) Should I run the 91 caps or move to the 93s?

Room holds 200-300 maybe.  Square except for left wall is missing so people in the bar can watch also.  Normally setup dead center, 35-40' back which is basically the back of the room.

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: Tim on November 20, 2003, 12:25:49 AM
have you been happy with your previous tapes? if so then cards

however I think most people prefer to run hypers in small bars, cuts down on some of the room reflections and general bar noise. unless the place sounds really good I prefer hypers inside.

how wide is this place?
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 20, 2003, 12:29:38 AM
Been happy with my tapes before but I also have never run hypers since I have never had them before.  Room is maybe 20' wide.

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: Tim on November 20, 2003, 12:44:22 AM
try the hypers out, you might be suprised and it can't hurt to try. I bet you'll like them.
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: drewloo on November 20, 2003, 02:22:05 AM
FWIW, when I had my 390's I usually ran the 93's when at a bar/club.  The only time I got really good results w/ the 91's in a bar/club was using them X-Y; when used ORTF or DIN in clubs they sounded really boomy.

Drew
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 20, 2003, 02:30:18 AM
+Thanks for the help guys.

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: nickgregory on November 20, 2003, 07:26:34 AM
the hypers for those mics absolutely rock indoors.  The only times I would run cards is when I was in REALLY great sounding clubs, with a small audience, or outside...otherwise hypers were the choice for me.
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 21, 2003, 03:25:18 PM
Any tips on config? I normally run DIN.

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: nickgregory on November 21, 2003, 03:39:23 PM
DIN, but close the distance for the hypers 17cm
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 21, 2003, 03:45:02 PM
Cool.  How does XY normally sound?

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: nickgregory on November 21, 2003, 03:50:10 PM
I dont like XY too much with those mics...not much imaging.  Give it a shot though...we all hear things a bit differently...
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: Tim on November 21, 2003, 04:04:49 PM
I ran x/y forever with the bluelines, then I found out about DIN... never looked back!
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 21, 2003, 04:06:17 PM
DIN it is then!  Thanks guys.

+Ts

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: Chris K on November 21, 2003, 05:17:14 PM
din here also...only occasionally x/y...

if you got both caps...start with the cards, and switch to hypers for the second set...or cards for opener, hypers for headliner

then compare...and let your ears be the judge

have a grateful day
chris k
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 21, 2003, 05:34:34 PM
Definately want to do that when I get the chance.  Maybe Sunday @ Garaj Mahaj but tointe I am only going for the opener anyway.  

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: ethan on November 21, 2003, 05:56:49 PM
I run 393's DIN indoors.

I only use the 91's on-stage or outdoors and always ORTF.

Just my preference......
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: phishn on November 21, 2003, 10:34:28 PM
What's a DIN configuration?  I know what XY and ORTF are.
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: mirth on November 22, 2003, 12:27:30 AM
Think XY but caps ~17cm apart and the vertex of the angle is at the base of the microphones, not at the capsules.
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 22, 2003, 04:35:50 AM
Holy shit.  Don't have enough time to post a full review of these mics but damn...I love em'!

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: ethan on November 22, 2003, 10:17:03 PM
sweet!

I love mine!
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: grider on November 25, 2003, 09:44:37 AM
I have 300's with 91 caps and 93 caps, my experience has been use the 91 caps outdoors and in better indoor acoustic environments, use the 93 caps for everything else, I also suggest the ORTF mic configuration for livlier recordings, the XY will give a sterile sounding recording
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: Tim on November 25, 2003, 06:28:24 PM
I don't think that the 391's are bright enough to run ORTF... try DIN instead
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 25, 2003, 06:51:56 PM
I've gotten to run these twice now. Two different clubs.  Ran DIN first night.  Clarity is nice and sound is full.  Second night I run XY.  Lost a little clarity and its a bit boomier but not horribly.  Definately think DIN is the way to run.  Oh yeah, I was running hypers.

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: olyrc on November 25, 2003, 07:23:38 PM
I've gotten to run these twice now. Two different clubs.  Ran DIN first night.  Clarity is nice and sound is full.  Second night I run XY.  Lost a little clarity and its a bit boomier but not horribly.  Definately think DIN is the way to run.  Oh yeah, I was running hypers.

-Kevin
You should try XY with my pmod sometime - might take care of the boomy sound.

Swap for String Cheese?
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: blu666z on November 25, 2003, 08:55:25 PM
Wonder is they are doing 2 sets?

-Kevin
Title: Re:Which AKG 300 caps to run?
Post by: olyrc on November 26, 2003, 02:09:16 AM
Hmmmm...