Topic: Stealthing very loud metal shows...extended from Team EVIL

[PG]

well, i normally say... if it isnt stealthed, it probably isnt worth taping.... i know i will get alot of shit for that, but oh well.  long live stealth taping.  the only time i used a stand i use duct tape and a camera tripod...  but hey, it turned out ok.

Watch out Karl, when the moon is full I hear if you get bitten by a w00k you end up buying a full rig and taping jambands...

[kfrinkle]

Hahahah awesome.  Wooks know to stay the fuck away from me.  I got that nice tall, skinny shaved head + goatee look for the most part, and you know wooks dont like that, they know not to fuck with me.  the only reason i want  a mic stand, is that there are some local bands that i really dig, and they like it when i tape them.  In fact, i rn one of the bands websites for em.  but anyways, now that i have 2 sets of gear for the most part, it would be nice to run rigs from both sides of the venues etc...

+T

well, i normally say... if it isnt stealthed, it probably isnt worth taping.... i know i will get alot of shit for that, but oh well.  long live stealth taping.  the only time i used a stand i use duct tape and a camera tripod...  but hey, it turned out ok.

Watch out Karl, when the moon is full I hear if you get bitten by a w00k you end up buying a full rig and taping jambands...

[nickgregory]

nice over simplification on stand tapes...a bunch of bands out there that aren't jambands allow taping....and yes, I stealth and stand tape...

[kfrinkle]

yes, but are you.... EVIL?

nice over simplification on stand tapes...a bunch of bands out there that aren't jambands allow taping....and yes, I stealth and stand tape...

[PG]

nice over simplification on stand tapes...a bunch of bands out there that aren't jambands allow taping....and yes, I stealth and stand tape...

Oh I know, It just worked into the joke much better that way...

+T

[pfife]

yes, but are you.... EVIL?

I'm fuckin' evil- does that count?

 

[kfrinkle]

well, after looking at your avatar, I realize that you must be really fucking evil.... i mean, we use them to throw people off.. right?  mine is pure evil...

[neognosis]

I'm chaotic neutral.[/d&ddork]

[Evil Taper]

Here's the thing....people keep telling me that if running omnis that i should be taping as close to the stacks as possible.  In my humble personal opinion, the recordings made from this sort of venue location have good sound, but are missing that live ambience that is the live sound in itself.  I ALWAYS stand FOB whether I have gear or not, I think the sound is mixed most purely in this sort of location and also you get to enjoy the throw that the venue has...which sometimes is not a plus I do admit...but it's just such a different sound.  If recording right in front of the stacks you may as well be running a SBD show, since it doesn't have that live warmth that you get FOB anyway.  I know I can really get cocky and sound like an asshole so disregard this shit if you think i'm a retard.  Thanks you evil fuckers.

[pfife]

I've never made the effort to stand close to stacks when using omnis.  I always try to envision an equilateral triangle between the R and L stacks, and me at the point of the triangle.  If you stand like that, you'll get way more ambience with omnis than cards/hypers.

[Evil Taper]

You sure are pro omni when the majority have been giving cards a big round of applause.  So I guess it's all up to personal prefferance.  My concern is that this stupid boomy venue will continually caugh up very bassy recordings using omnis.  So I guess I don't know what to go for.  Shwilly said she uses cmc4s and loves em for metal, recommended those over the 4061s.  SOooooo...who knows.


Off topic, but my mom wants a setup for recording her singing practices, something that will make an accurate vocal reproduction.  What I was looking at was:

MXL 990 Cardiod Condensor for 69.99
Behringer Eurorack UB502 for 49.99
Looking to spend $150 or less total, need something easy to use and decent quality.  That an ok rig for this kind of usage?

[Evil Taper]

Ok, well what about the SP-CMC-16 mics?  These mics use Shure components.  Never hear anyone mention them.

[Evil Taper]

Ok....so fuck running a preamp stealth for phantom power, they're too damn big.  According to the oade site the ua5 is 8.5" and that's way too big to hide anywhere else.  If the 4061s run off a small power unit I think that's probably a much more stealthy option than lugging around more gear.  It's not worth getting some mics that aren't even stealthable, if I want to hear a Claypool show I'm at I'll just score a copy of some guys Schoeps tape.  I'm only lugging my gear for stealth situations.

[pfife]

Ok....so fuck running a preamp stealth for phantom power, they're too damn big.  According to the oade site the ua5 is 8.5" and that's way too big to hide anywhere else.  If the 4061s run off a small power unit I think that's probably a much more stealthy option than lugging around more gear.  It's not worth getting some mics that aren't even stealthable, if I want to hear a Claypool show I'm at I'll just score a copy of some guys Schoeps tape.  I'm only lugging my gear for stealth situations.

phantom power will elicit better results though...  I "stealth" the UA-5 all the time- just never when I have to get it through security.  When you say that Schwill is into the CMC-4, when I've had convo's with him about this, he uses them with a phantom power source, not a battery box, so that's going to be a difference when it comes to microphone performance.

I am very pro-omni- but it's all in your personal tastes!

[Brian Skalinder]

Ok....so fuck running a preamp stealth for phantom power, they're too damn big.  According to the oade site the ua5 is 8.5" and that's way too big to hide anywhere else.

So run an SD MP2 / MixPre / Shure FP24 pre instead.  Definitely stealthable.