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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2005, 05:37:05 PM »
I ran my 414s for the Duo and Rana yesterday. Came out really nice. Will be in the kickdowns soon...

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2005, 08:35:17 PM »
If you ladies want to hear a nice 414 tape:

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2005, 02:12:10 AM »
If you ladies want to hear a nice 414 tape:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=42627.0

Thanks honey!  :-*

I'm going to the Wilco show at the Greek Theater in Berkeley... Any tips on how to run the 414s? I'm leaning towards subcards (since it's outside) in something like DIN, possibly a little wider. Comments?
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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2005, 04:02:18 AM »
If you ladies want to hear a nice 414 tape:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=42627.0

Thanks honey! :-*

I'm going to the Wilco at the Greek Theater in Berkeley... Any tips on how to run the 414s? I'm leaning towards subcards (since it's outside) in something like DIN, possibly a little wider. Comments?

run NOS, it should work great

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2005, 11:20:06 PM »
subcards need to be run wide... at least NOS, I used to run the u89's at 40cm/90*
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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2005, 11:27:14 PM »
i always liked cards like that too :)

maybe 30-40cm, hell, when i run them that apart, i dont measure tho, you geek tim :P

glad youre back in the game tho bud :)

dont you think you'll getn sick of running omni's tho ??? i guess a j-disc would take care of that tho, that way you wouldnt have to split them 20'
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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2005, 11:52:20 PM »
I love omni's.... I'm doing onstage/stagelip stuff... with the jdisc I'm all set. eventually I'll add some cards to the arsenal but the omni's sound really sweet on my stereo
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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2005, 12:03:10 AM »
I love omni's.... I'm doing onstage/stagelip stuff... with the jdisc I'm all set. eventually I'll add some cards to the arsenal but the omni's sound really sweet on my stereo

can you switch out the omnis for cards in your current setup ??? i dunno anything about stealth mics at all really :P

so what exactly are you ruinning? dpa 4061 omni's>the nice dpa battery box(any rolloff or anything?)> Sony m1 ???
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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2005, 12:08:07 AM »
nope, they are fixed... no switching

4061->DPA preamp, it has tons of clean gain... very Grace-esque... I'm borrowing a todd mod sbm1 and m1 right now from simpy. I'm on the list for an maudio 24/96 recorded

the plan is to add a pair of cards and a v3, but that's a little ways off still
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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2005, 01:38:30 AM »
Thanks and +t, guys!
The only thing I worried about is that the subcards might pick up more audience chatter. We'll see.

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2005, 02:02:36 AM »
Thanks and +t, guys!
The only thing I worried about is that the subcards might pick up more audience chatter. We'll see.

If you're running from the front row, you should be gold!   ;D

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2005, 06:50:51 AM »
sub cards on the 414s.
Mmmmmm......

while subs like it wide in a near-coincident setup like NOS, they also ROCK XY.
IMO, that is where the 414s shine.  conincident of any style.

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2005, 04:17:00 PM »
The Bumblebees arrived today.  Big thanks Marc!  Let "the Source" be with you!   ;D

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2005, 01:18:37 AM »
while subs like it wide in a near-coincident setup like NOS, they also ROCK XY.
IMO, that is where the 414s shine.  conincident of any style.

I've tried XY/90 twice and didn't like it that much, because it sounded too mono-ish to me. Now, the recording situations in both cases wer not ideal, so I guess I'll just have to keep trying...

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Re: AKG 414 XLS
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2005, 07:18:39 AM »
when I am in a good location, and running XY I get a great center image.  some folks may call it mono-ish.  Me, I dont like hearing distinct left and right info on my stereo.  I like it to all just come from distinct locations, just like reality only w/o the physical object projecting the sound (like an amp on stage, or a drum kit).

the 414s, or any LD mic, have such a great shine when it comes to capturing that sense of space when run coincident.  Of course, blumlein is king.  Its much more open sounding than XY.  I used to hate XY recording as well.  I used to say that it sounded like the music was focasing right between my eyes, and I didnt care for it.
then I owned a few high-end stereo mics, like the c422,  which is basicaly a couple of 414 capsules mounted coincident and fixed that way.  It opened my eyes up to the virtues of XY, M-S and blumlein.  I now come to prefer this setup most of the time.  When I run NC methods, I find that I dont get that sharp imaging that I really enjoy.  Unless you are right on top of things, then it (say, ortf) can sound as tight as XY.  But you need to be on top of the source, like stage lip or just a few feet off.
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