Topic: So how DO $45/pair omnis sound?

[china_rider]

hmmm

[bgalizio]

Hmmm...

I will have a sample from this weekend's gig up tonight or tomorrow (onstage mics -> Metric Halo) for additional consideration.

I've got a few concerns though, especially as it relates to field taping usage.  Need to do a little more listening first before I comment further though...

That sure isn't a tease

[TNJazz]

Hmmm...

I will have a sample from this weekend's gig up tonight or tomorrow (onstage mics -> Metric Halo) for additional consideration.

I've got a few concerns though, especially as it relates to field taping usage.  Need to do a little more listening first before I comment further though...

That sure isn't a tease

I had some minor concerns after last week's outing, but I decided to wait and see if this weekend's outing could improve on the problems I experienced.

I will listen critically today just to verify.  If anyone's worried, I will say that for the price these mics can't be beat.  How can you not grab a pair of mics for $50 that actually sound good?  However, they may not be particularly suitable for all situations, especially loud rock shows.

[Chuck]

I got mine on Saturday and recorded a rain/ thunder shower with them using my own version of the J-Disk. I noticed the output was considerably less than my C-480's. I lifted the -20db pad on the PMD671 that I always use with the C-480's. Next I want to record a quiet source to see if the added gain needed will be a problem.

I had one other thought... If you hard wired some thin mic-cable to the XLR pins and epoxyed that good, these would be VERY stealthable.

[flipp]

When the store comes back online is there going to be an alternative to paypal for those of us who don't/won't do paypal?

[mmmatt]

I just ordered a pair!!!

Matt

[TNJazz]

New joint here http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=70181.0

[Wiggle]

Just got mine in the mail today. They look pretty nifty and I can't wait to give them a try.

Thanks Jon!

[kuuan]

naiant.com won't open in the land of the dragon, must be banned here in China. Do they take them for bullets?

Will there be a 9 Volt battery box version with 2 x mono mini plugs?
Do I understand correctly that these omnis sould work well with not heavily amplified music, even ambient sound?

[Chuck]

naiant.com won't open in the land of the dragon, must be banned here in China. Do they take them for bullets?

Will there be a 9 Volt battery box version with 2 x mono mini plugs?
Do I understand correctly that these omnis sould work well with not heavily amplified music, even ambient sound?

It sounds like Jon is working on a battery powered version. I recorded a rain shower the other day with the MSH-1A's I got. These mics require much more gain than a standard condensor, like my AKG C-480's, so they may not be suited to recording low level ambient sounds.

[kuuan]

Thank you Chuck!

Currently I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of SP-CMC4s with cardioid capsules I bought at the yard sale, but I also want omnis. Yes, I do want to record unamplified music and ambience. I use a 9 Volt powered preamp which supplies 9 Volt power to the mics. With the preamp added, could Jon's omnis be a good choice, or would the omni capsules for the CMC4s, which I'd hope to get at the yard, my best choice? BTW I have Giant Squid Omnis, but I'd suppose that both, Jon's and the omni capsules for the CMCs should be quite superior, yes?

The preamp is quite basic though, it's an unknown model only sold in Japan. The specs look like this: ( some odd automatic translations included )

Rated Output Level: -10dBV
Maximum Output Level: +2dBV (1kHz, T.H.D1% o'clock)
Frequency Characteristic: 20Hz-20,000Hz (-3dB)
+20dB (when GAIN is MIN),
+ 50dB (when GAIN is MAX)
Maximum Permission Input: -18dBV (when GAIN is MIN)
all -- harmonics:0.05% (when GAIN is MIN)
0.2% (when GAIN is MAX)
Input conversion noise level :
- 110DBV (when GAIN is MIN),
- 120DBV (when GAIN is MAX)   
Power-supply: DC9V
Consumption Current: 30mA (maximum)

[Chuck]

Thank you Chuck!

Currently I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of SP-CMC4s with cardioid capsules I bought at the yard sale, but I also want omnis. Yes, I do want to record unamplified music and ambience. I use a 9 Volt powered preamp which supplies 9 Volt power to the mics. With the preamp added, could Jon's omnis be a good choice, or would the omni capsules for the CMC4s, which I'd hope to get at the yard, my best choice? BTW I have Giant Squid Omnis, but I'd suppose that both, Jon's and the omni capsules for the CMCs should be quite superior, yes?

The preamp is quite basic though, it's an unknown model only sold in Japan. The specs look like this: ( some odd automatic translations included )

Rated Output Level: -10dBV
Maximum Output Level: +2dBV (1kHz, T.H.D1% o'clock)
Frequency Characteristic: 20Hz-20,000Hz (-3dB)
+20dB (when GAIN is MIN),
+ 50dB (when GAIN is MAX)
Maximum Permission Input: -18dBV (when GAIN is MIN)
all -- harmonics:0.05% (when GAIN is MIN)
0.2% (when GAIN is MAX)
Input conversion noise level :
- 110DBV (when GAIN is MIN),
- 120DBV (when GAIN is MAX)   
Power-supply: DC9V
Consumption Current: 30mA (maximum)

I'm not the right one to ask about all the various electret microphones available. I do know that the price/ performance of the MSH-1A's is what I was looking for. I want to do my own tests to determine the overload point of the MSH-1A's, before I use them for any critical recording.

[RebelRebel]

John is also working on a tube mic..that guy is smart as a whip. He is a great addition here.

http://www.naiant.com/studiostore/tubemicrophones.html

[Chuck]

Yeah, I saw that miniature tube microphone... That's pretty nifty...