Author Topic: DFC? (Read 7654 times)

sirwalter · « **on:** June 10, 2004, 10:55:05 AM »

Ive been trying to listen to recordings from different sources and i keep seeing fob recordings that list dfc. is dfc a configuration? ive searched with no luck. could someone point me to a link that explains it? thanks!

sygdwm · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2004, 10:56:59 AM »

dead fuckin center

heath · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2004, 10:59:48 AM »

you might also encounter ROC (Right of Center) and LOC (Left of Center) and BTP (Back to Paul -- another way of saying FOB). Good luck deciphering all our garbage.

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:01:01 AM »

dfc/fob/din!!!!~!~!~1!~1`!~!

sirwalter · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:09:33 AM »

Quote from: dre on June 10, 2004, 10:56:59 AM

dead fuckin center

too funny...im searching expecting some detailed explanation. thanks peeps.

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:17:11 AM »

Quote from: sirwalter on June 10, 2004, 11:09:33 AM

Quote from: dre on June 10, 2004, 10:56:59 AM
dead fuckin center

too funny...im searching expecting some detailed explanation. thanks peeps.

lol, won't fins that here, we're simply minded creatures us tapirs

Nick in Edinboro · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:38:34 AM »

Sir Walter, moelinks.com has a great site written by Jon McLennen tucked deep within it's massive archives that might help you out.

The Incomplete Guide to Deciphering Those Confusing Combinations of Letters and Numbers that Seem All Too Important to Some People

"The goal of this little endeavor is to help in aiding moe.rons in finding out exactly what

AfDm 44.1 3:21:00 scms=00 FOB- Front Left@SBD B&K 4021s (~12')>Apogee AD 1000 (+20)>HHb (m)

means. Not only what it means, but how it affects you and those you love. For those of you who are not initiated into the Occult of Anal Tapers, OAT if you will, this will be your crash course in reading source info. "

You'll find the equipment critiqued is a little outdated, but I think it has a nice section describing source lineage acronyms. If I ever find the time, and get Jon's permission, I'm going to petition to revamp the hell outta it.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM »

Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

Kevin McF · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:56:06 AM »

Quote from: heath on June 10, 2004, 10:59:48 AM

BTP (Back to Paul -- another way of saying FOB)

who coined this one?

kev

Nick in Edinboro · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2004, 11:59:03 AM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM

Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

You could also, in a similar vein, sorta "debunk" DFC as being a meaningful attribute as sometimes in smaller venues the sweet spot is not "on center".

greenone · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2004, 02:19:42 PM »

Quote from: npsinboro on June 10, 2004, 11:38:34 AM

The Incomplete Guide to Deciphering Those Confusing Combinations of Letters and Numbers that Seem All Too Important to Some People

Or, as it's known to those in the know, TIGtDTCCoLaNtSATItSP.

Tim · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2004, 02:58:25 PM »

Quote from: npsinboro on June 10, 2004, 11:59:03 AM

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

You could also, in a similar vein, sorta "debunk" DFC as being a meaningful attribute as sometimes in smaller venues the sweet spot is not "on center".

image center is not necessarily dfc in any situation. it's probably a good starting point but you should walk the room a bit to find the true image center...

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2004, 03:41:17 PM »

Quote from: Trey Is Wilson on June 10, 2004, 02:58:25 PM

image center is not necessarily dfc in any situation. it's probably a good starting point but you should walk the room a bit to find the true image center...

Also good feedback, though the image center for the opening band won't necessarily be the image center for the headliner, or for the following night's shows, etc. At least not in my experience.

John Kelly · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2004, 07:45:34 PM »

DFC at 17' is the only way to tape.

Tim · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2004, 07:56:03 PM »

Quote from: John Kelly on June 10, 2004, 07:45:34 PM

DFC at 17' is the only way to tape.

you must tape bands with screaming girls for "fans"

Rob D. · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2004, 07:56:22 PM »

FOH DFC is the way to go!

Zaphod · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2004, 08:06:21 PM »

This is quick in becoming like the taping fallices thread.

John Kelly · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2004, 08:16:07 PM »

I haven't seen any fallacies yet, only facts.

Zaphod · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2004, 08:56:52 PM »

Quote from: Tim on June 10, 2004, 07:56:03 PM

Quote from: John Kelly on June 10, 2004, 07:45:34 PM
DFC at 17' is the only way to tape.

you must tape bands with screaming girls for "fans"

I must've misinterpreted these comments.

Although with all the talk of DFC not always being the sweet spot, it could be argued that DFC being always the best is somewhat of a fallacy.

To bad most of us tapers don't know the scientific equation that always equals sweet spot.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2004, 11:07:32 AM »

even if we knew the equations for the sweet spot, we'd have to convince the ppl that have those spots to hit the road!!

zhianosatch · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2004, 11:47:31 AM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM

Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

I've gone so far as to list my spot as 12" or 18" ROC - if I can hear and see that it's not truly DFC, then I make sho to be ackerate.

Tim · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2004, 06:36:24 PM »

Quote from: Zaphod on June 10, 2004, 08:56:52 PM

To bad most of us tapers don't know the scientific equation that always equals sweet spot.

while you can get the theoretically sweet spot using the equilateral triangle method it is all theoretical. As many have said previously in this thread actual image center is not always physical center.

marc0789 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2004, 04:22:52 PM »

I've had some interesting experiences with dfc not necessarily being image center. I ran about 2 feet roc for mc5 and seemed to get a nicer image than stepping into dfc, a little boom and less detail there. Not the first time I've noticed that for sure.

RobC · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2004, 08:44:55 PM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM

Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

personally, I use the 2 foot rule, I don't list sources as 18" LOC.

MattD · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2004, 08:57:59 PM »

Quote from: RobC on June 14, 2004, 08:44:55 PM

personally, I use the 2 foot rule, I don't list sources as 18" LOC.

Do you use that kind of estimation for the ladies, too?

BC · « **Reply #25 on:** June 15, 2004, 12:34:07 PM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM

Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

Also funny how everything gets listed as FOB, even if the mics are 2 ft in front of the board vs way up front in the sweet spot...

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #26 on:** June 15, 2004, 08:30:16 PM »

gotta list a distance from stage to give a perspective

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #27 on:** June 15, 2004, 10:04:29 PM »

my perception is sometimes altered at shows and i am unable to guesstimate a distance.

John Kelly · « **Reply #28 on:** June 15, 2004, 10:34:28 PM »

Quote from: BC on June 15, 2004, 12:34:07 PM

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on June 10, 2004, 11:54:55 AM
Anyone ever notice how some tapers are *very* generous when describing their recording location as DFC? I've seen people describe their location as DFC when they're 20' off-center in a medium sized venue!

Also funny how everything gets listed as FOB, even if the mics are 2 ft in front of the board vs way up front in the sweet spot...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't FOB simply mean "Front of Board?"

John Kelly · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2004, 12:06:10 AM »

Ok, makes sense. But in every other situation it's simply front of board, right?

Author Topic: DFC? (Read 7654 times)

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