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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #285 on: May 11, 2019, 03:50:07 PM »
Could it be that the unit is coming on and just the display is shot? I guess that's as bad as having a dead deck
Nope, these things work ok without the display. You can tell peak levels with the red and green peak lights, and if you have a second M10 handy, then you can still operate the menus blind. I have one with a cracked screen that only shows backlight and I've made good recordings on it regularly since it broke. I bought the replacement part, but lost it, and now can't get another!! d'oh!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #286 on: May 11, 2019, 04:45:19 PM »
try plugging it in with the wall wart. Might have an internal battery that holds the clock and the settings. Just a guess ???
it 100% has an internal battery that does the date and time
just over 1.5 weeks with 2 AA batteries in, powered on (though the display kept timing out) and the internal battery seems to be good again... taking out the batteries didnt wipe the date and time :)
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #287 on: May 15, 2019, 12:14:58 PM »
Here's a quick M10 question.
Saw this on a recent tool tape:

Source: Schoeps MK41 > nbob KCY > babyNbox > Sony PCM-M10 (Oade preamp mod) (24bit, 96kHz)

When did Oade mod these, and what mod was it? Is there any way to get the noise floor down as low as the Concert modded PMD-620?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #288 on: May 16, 2019, 08:11:42 AM »
Here's a quick M10 question.
Saw this on a recent tool tape:

Source: Schoeps MK41 > nbob KCY > babyNbox > Sony PCM-M10 (Oade preamp mod) (24bit, 96kHz)

When did Oade mod these, and what mod was it? Is there any way to get the noise floor down as low as the Concert modded PMD-620?

Thanks!

I saw that too and I am very interested. Wondering when they do that could they also fix my hold button? It's really sticky and sometimes will stay in the power off position. Always wanted to fix that. Anyone know how?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #289 on: May 16, 2019, 12:47:27 PM »
I used to tape the switches on the back because they were TOO easy to move!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #290 on: May 16, 2019, 01:42:34 PM »
I used to tape the switches on the back because they were TOO easy to move!

I actually just super glued those into place. I have never had to change those settings.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #291 on: May 16, 2019, 01:47:49 PM »
I saw that too and I am very interested. Wondering when they do that could they also fix my hold button? It's really sticky and sometimes will stay in the power off position. Always wanted to fix that. Anyone know how?

https://www.oade.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=185
The Sony PCM-M10 Audiophile MOD bypasses the input selector IC and replaces the preamp chip which limits dynamic range to 80dB. The preamp is upgraded using a state of the art op amp with a dynamic range of 127dB. The sound quality is also improved, the upgrade removes a hazy quality allowing the signal to sound more present. This upgrade removes the built in microphones.
Price includes return shipping and insurance in the 48 states.

My input jack is making crackle sounds, I wonder if this is worth it or if I just buy a new A10 or D10.... thoughts?


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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #292 on: May 16, 2019, 02:07:55 PM »

https://www.oade.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=185
The Sony PCM-M10 Audiophile MOD bypasses the input selector IC and replaces the preamp chip which limits dynamic range to 80dB. The preamp is upgraded using a state of the art op amp with a dynamic range of 127dB. The sound quality is also improved, the upgrade removes a hazy quality allowing the signal to sound more present. This upgrade removes the built in microphones.
Price includes return shipping and insurance in the 48 states.

My input jack is making crackle sounds, I wonder if this is worth it or if I just buy a new A10 or D10.... thoughts?

They could replace the input jack while its open for the mod, shouldn't be too expensive. I always wanted something locking like this:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=166841.0;all

but that seems a little overboard.

I guess the basic question is whether you need the plug-in power or are running line in. I can't tell from that description whether it will affect both mic and line inputs. The PMD620 description is much more clear.

https://www.oade.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=91&zenid=h146a03k3kg5rk6ihaqhtlvmh0
"The PMD 620MKII Concert rebuilds the PMD 620MKII mic preamp with a low noise, very low distortion and high slew rate op amp that dramatically enhances detail and clarity while lowering noise and audible distortions. This upgrade also improves the line input circuit. The built in mics are removed to maximize microphone input quality, all other features remain intact. Concert MOD parts are selected by ear to optimize the PMD 620MKII for recording music. "

I guess the next question is whether the 2 modifications produce a similar low noise floor and clarity, or if one is better than the other! I really REALLY miss the input dial on the m10 whenever I use the PMD620. You have to be really familiar with the SPL level of a setting when taping on the fly with the 620 because of its input settings, and with the M10, you just turn the dial till it sounds right!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #293 on: May 16, 2019, 02:21:28 PM »
I am nBox to Line-In, so I dont care how to get around the input jack or a repair.... as long as I can get the nbox output captured
I only have used the mics once, when i could not get anything bigger past security (small venue and good security this one time)... the mics are basically useless to me

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #294 on: May 18, 2019, 01:39:42 AM »

I used to tape the switches on the back because they were TOO easy to move!
I actually just super glued those into place. I have never had to change those settings.



Better hope the switches don’t get dirty and need to be exercised?! I use tape to cover them so they don’t move.


My input jack is making crackle sounds, I wonder if this is worth it or if I just buy a new A10 or D10.... thoughts?



Get some spray contact cleaner, remove batteries, spray all over a mini plug, then plug in & remove twenty times fast.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #296 on: May 22, 2019, 04:10:16 PM »
Get some spray contact cleaner, remove batteries, spray all over a mini plug, then plug in & remove twenty times fast.[/font]

What if this leaks into the unit, anything it will hurt?

I almost believe its cracked/loose, not just dirty

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #297 on: May 23, 2019, 09:22:35 AM »
There's been a problem with my M10 powering off when I pressed RECORD, so I began using the remote. Yesterday it turned off pressing RECORD on the remote.

I had been suspecting it was a memory card problem because the cards weren't seated properly when inserted, one corner was higher.

Today the M10 would only stay powered on when there was NO card in the slot.

So I stuck a small piece of cardboard in-between the top of the card slot (with a card inside) and the card slot cover, and the M10 turned on and so far is staying on even when using operation buttons.

Probably the spring in the card slot has weakened -- my M10 is ten years old, and I've usually taken the card out when transferring files to my computer for faster download -- so it's had a lot of use.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #298 on: May 23, 2019, 09:25:28 AM »
Use the usb to transfer. Leave the card alone!


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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #299 on: May 23, 2019, 09:29:51 AM »
Use the usb to transfer. Leave the card alone!



Probably do that now -- but its slowliness is killing me!
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