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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #165 on: May 17, 2024, 04:59:16 AM »
It’s unboxing time!
At fist power on language was set to Chinese 🙈
It take some time (with help of google translate) to switch on BT and connect to Sidus app to change language)

I don’t know when i can test it live at some gig 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #166 on: May 17, 2024, 05:07:24 AM »
It’s really tiny comparing to Zoom F1

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #167 on: May 17, 2024, 12:13:39 PM »
Thanks for posting these! Tiny for sure...

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #168 on: May 17, 2024, 12:32:59 PM »
looks nice!
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #169 on: May 17, 2024, 02:52:56 PM »
Can you confirm the PIP voltage?
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #170 on: May 17, 2024, 04:50:08 PM »
Can you confirm the PIP voltage?

DPA 4061 works)
Gain set to +24db and I spoke quite quietly

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #171 on: May 17, 2024, 05:34:35 PM »
Can you confirm the PIP voltage?

DPA 4061 works)
Gain set to +24db and I spoke quite quietly

Do you have a multimeter that reads DC voltage?
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #172 on: May 17, 2024, 05:53:50 PM »
Do you have a multimeter that reads DC voltage?

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #173 on: May 18, 2024, 09:20:33 PM »
Waiting on reviews.  Ready to buy one.

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #174 on: May 21, 2024, 12:19:09 AM »
given the limited track record of this company's products in our market vs the usual manufacturers, tbh i dont really get the people chomping at the bit for this, now that 32-bit is off the table, esp those who don't have a use for 5V pip. already numerous options for that including the trusty a10. take away 5v and were left with a device that we are hoping is, at best, equal to the A10 in its reliability and specifications, as A10 is quite a refined device that was a generation above the M10 and voice recorders it combined into a cost-effective, compact, high-resolution recording device with substantially cleaner input than its predecessors. last thing we need is another GIGO toy but time will tell.

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #175 on: May 21, 2024, 11:03:48 AM »
given the limited track record of this company's products in our market vs the usual manufacturers, tbh i dont really get the people chomping at the bit for this, now that 32-bit is off the table, esp those who don't have a use for 5V pip. already numerous options for that including the trusty a10. take away 5v and were left with a device that we are hoping is, at best, equal to the A10 in its reliability and specifications, as A10 is quite a refined device that was a generation above the M10 and voice recorders it combined into a cost-effective, compact, high-resolution recording device with substantially cleaner input than its predecessors. last thing we need is another GIGO toy but time will tell.

The fact that it doesn't have any mics on it will appeal to many people who want to just put it in their bag and have no questions asked.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #176 on: May 21, 2024, 11:38:48 AM »
Yes thats certainly an upside. Franken-hacking an A10 to remove the mics isn't for everyone. I'm just concerned with the feature set changing at the 11th hour that this may not have an well designed analog front end. They wouldn't be changing an ADC chip this late in design (and most have been 32 bit-capable for years), so i fear with the limited real estate inside of there (massive volume taken up by batteries and a bunch of other stuff in there like timecode/wireless) that it isn't focused on clean 2-channel audio, more that it tries to be a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none.

Modern 2ch recorders like the A10 and the DR100 utilize combining of channels on multi-channel ADCs to improve the S/N by 3 or more dB. The late-game design decisions/compromises make me believe they are at the limit of their hardware and it may be an FPGA-based design which can vary from exceptional to horrendous.

Time will tell, there is no substitute for testing,. teardown, and some real-world experience. we only had one report on the predecessor to this device and it did not meet the tapers expectations, hence why i said their track record is kinda iffy in our market.

The fact that they claim dynamic range in excess of 120dB but S/N at 90dB is also concerning. They dont go into measurement spec but 90dB SINAD would place it near the bottom of analog inputs in the modern day

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #177 on: May 21, 2024, 11:45:22 AM »
given the limited track record of this company's products in our market vs the usual manufacturers, tbh i dont really get the people chomping at the bit for this, now that 32-bit is off the table, esp those who don't have a use for 5V pip. already numerous options for that including the trusty a10. take away 5v and were left with a device that we are hoping is, at best, equal to the A10 in its reliability and specifications, as A10 is quite a refined device that was a generation above the M10 and voice recorders it combined into a cost-effective, compact, high-resolution recording device with substantially cleaner input than its predecessors. last thing we need is another GIGO toy but time will tell.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #178 on: May 21, 2024, 02:20:58 PM »
Yes thats certainly an upside. Franken-hacking an A10 to remove the mics isn't for everyone. I'm just concerned with the feature set changing at the 11th hour that this may not have an well designed analog front end. They wouldn't be changing an ADC chip this late in design (and most have been 32 bit-capable for years), so i fear with the limited real estate inside of there (massive volume taken up by batteries and a bunch of other stuff in there like timecode/wireless) that it isn't focused on clean 2-channel audio, more that it tries to be a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none.

Modern 2ch recorders like the A10 and the DR100 utilize combining of channels on multi-channel ADCs to improve the S/N by 3 or more dB. The late-game design decisions/compromises make me believe they are at the limit of their hardware and it may be an FPGA-based design which can vary from exceptional to horrendous.

Time will tell, there is no substitute for testing,. teardown, and some real-world experience. we only had one report on the predecessor to this device and it did not meet the tapers expectations, hence why i said their track record is kinda iffy in our market.

The fact that they claim dynamic range in excess of 120dB but S/N at 90dB is also concerning. They dont go into measurement spec but 90dB SINAD would place it near the bottom of analog inputs in the modern day

It's all speculation/what-if until somebody as a proper teardown and can vouch for what it truly is/isn't.  I'm not holding my breath on this so I went with an F3 which made more sense to me despite it being "larger."
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #179 on: May 21, 2024, 02:22:32 PM »
no matter what the other differences are, the f3 isn't "larger", it's significantly larger.  And has significantly worse battery life.
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