Topic: Best stealthable 24bit device?

[Carlos E. Martinez]

Hard drive unit, so bumps and movement can effect the recording.
i had a few skips on GA shows where i was bumped into a lot.

Was it reported this unit doing so?

The Sound Devices units also record on HD and CF (at the same time) and no one has reported any skips while carrying it around, which is it supposed to do as location recorder.

You mean the MR1 won't work that way?

[flintstone]

The MR-1 has no Compactflash slot, just the internal hard disc.

[Carlos E. Martinez]

The MR-1 has no Compactflash slot, just the internal hard disc.

Both Korgs use internal HD, but it's no supposed to skip when carrying it around.

[moooose]

just my 0.02 about the korg.

I own a MR-1 and did many stealth recordings with it. Never had a single problem, I can even imaging you can disguise it as a MP3 player; for extended battery life I'm using a self made battery sled holding 4 AA batteries.
It sounds great, is solid and can record in a wide range of quality and formats, from MP3 to DSD.

[travelinbeat]

how long do you get with the device + 4 AA's?

[edtyre]

how long do you get with the device + 4 AA's?

4+ hours  Enough to do most standard shows.
Carry a few extra AA's to extend your times.

Keith is selling a MR-1 in the Yard Sale.

[gewwang]

Hard drive unit, so bumps and movement can effect the recording.
i had a few skips on GA shows where i was bumped into a lot.

Was it reported this unit doing so?

The Sound Devices units also record on HD and CF (at the same time) and no one has reported any skips while carrying it around, which is it supposed to do as location recorder.

You mean the MR1 won't work that way?

This would be my biggest concern. Even in these summer reserved seated amphitheater shows I get bumped into quite a bit as there's always the people going back and forth to the beer line and pisser because they're just there for the $9 beers as opposed to the music.

I've never had any skips in any of my tapes due to this problem with my current setups.

[edtyre]

This would be my biggest concern. Even in these summer reserved seated amphitheater shows I get bumped into quite a bit as there's always the people going back and forth to the beer line and pisser because they're just there for the $9 beers as opposed to the music.

I've never had any skips in any of my tapes due to this problem with my current setups.

George

Let me be more clear....it skipped when some drunken wook slammed into me hard at a GA
show. And i had a similar problem in a festival setting where folks were all pushing and shoving
right in front of the stage. In a seated concert setting like you described, people walking past
and getting up and down at your seat, there is no problems.

[H₂O]

Who knows when we will have the abilty to play DSD files
or make DSD disks? (easily on my Mac with cheap or free software)

You can do this today:
 - Sony Playstation 3 can play DSD files natively (in DSF format I believe) - I would think off a hard disk as well as DVD-R - PS3 can send bitstream  over HDMI as well so you may be able to send DSD straight to a DSD compatible HDMI Reciever (i.e. high end Denon or Onkyo)
 - Sony also released a free plugin for Windows Media Player to play DSF files and convert them to PCM on the fly
 - Korg's Audiogate allows playback of DSD files on the MAC - not ideal but does work - you have to have a MR-1 or MR-1000 to install Audiogate though
 - FWIW - Sony also has a few VAIO PC's that have DSD sound cards
 

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Most of the advice you'll receive here is "I own X and I like it,"
which is fine as far as it goes.  More valuable is advice that says,
"I tried X and Y and Z, and decided to keep X." 

I use Church mics (CA-11's and CA-14's) and a Church 9100 Preamp.

Talk to Chris, he's tried most of the small 24bit analog input recorders with the gear he makes.

[Church-Audio]

I'm very used to my iRiver h120 however I fear that it may have one foot in the grave.  I've been uneasy about making the leap into the 24bit world, mostly because it would mean leaving the good ol' days of my beloved iRiver.  Can anyone point out some key differences between some of the more popular (and inexpensive) 24bit recorders out there?  I'd like to keep it similar in size to my old h120 (cigarette pack size, give or take).  Most of my shows are indoor alternative rock shows however I mix it up with all sorts of different scenerios.  I use Church mics (CA-11's and CA-14's) and a Church 9100 Preamp.

Thanks in advance!

If you really want the best bang for the buck its really REALLY hard to beat the R-09HR.... really its a great recorder with the improved preamp + my preamp you will get some kick ass low noise floor recordings.. I love the H120 too its got a nice fat sound but the noise floor is nowhere near the R-09 even the old one kicks its ass. Trust me!

Chris

[travelinbeat]

That's the second solid endorsement for the r-09hr I've gotten from a very reliable source!  It looks like I'm approaching a conclusion here folks, any avid supporters of anything other than the r-09hr please deposit your opinions soon!

[pyiteac]

I have an MR-1 and it sounds fantastic.  I do not stealth shows and understand your needs.  I would not recommend the MR-1 for stealthing.  It's HDD is an issue.  Powering it is an issue.  The inputs are an issue. 

For open taping there is nothing better sounding than the MR-1/MR-1000.  For stealth taping there is better options.

[moooose]

how long do you get with the device + 4 AA's?

around 4 hours... more or less.

[sunjan]

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Yamaha Pocketrak 2G
Yamaha Pocketrak CX (expected in August)
Sony MZ-RH1 and MZ-M200 HiMD
Marantz PMD620
M-Audio Microtrack 2496 (discontinued, external T mic)
M-Audio Microtrack II (external T mic)
Edirol R-09 (discontinued)
Zoom H2
Olympus LS-10 
Edirol R-09 HR
Tascam DR-1
Galaxy Audio HDR2
Zoom H4
Sony PCM-D50

Can anyone think of any I missed?

Hey Flintstone, I love your lists, T+!
Keep'em coming...

Just for the record, the HDR2 (aka Swissonic MDR-2 aka Dynasonic PDR-1) is 16bit only.