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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2008, 06:13:42 PM »
Keep the replies coming folks.

No one's gotten everything exactly right yet.

Without naming people it would be interesting to post the statistics when you are done. Remember that even those who do get it 100% correct may do so by chance.

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 07:53:49 PM »
Cool test.  I'll have to listen when I get home. :)

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 09:17:08 PM »
i now know the "answer" and i listened again
i think the vocals you can hear a slight difference if you really pay attn
the music i can't hear anything

all this was done on my laptop with no special speakers or anything though

for now i will stick to my stock furtooli
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 10:06:15 PM »
i now know the "answer" and i listened again
i think the vocals you can hear a slight difference if you really pay attn
the music i can't hear anything

Hmmm.  This is not meant to be a gotcha*, but would you say this is from the same recorder as clip A or from the other recorder (anyone can answer, please say same as A or not rather than which recorder if you've seen the spoiler):

http://homepage.mac.com/satterwill/FR2LEComparison/CompCallingU.flac

*I think I might be hearing the same thing as you but it's hard to say since I know where everything came from but this new one should be blind for you.

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 10:33:18 PM »
A and B sound better to me than C and D.

E and G sound better to me than F and H.

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 11:23:55 PM »
Listening lab Imac speakers:
B,D, E, and F
i now know the "answer" and i listened again
i think the vocals you can hear a slight difference if you really pay attn
the music i can't hear anything

all this was done on my laptop with no special speakers or anything though

for now i will stick to my stock furtooli
Yeah if I recorded DMB I would most likely stick to a stock Fr-Le2 to :P
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2008, 11:46:53 PM »
Keep the replies coming folks, and see the new test file as well:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,111772.msg1495443.html#msg1495443

Ideally, I'd love to hear why you prefer certain tracks or think they group together as well as just your letter choices.

Edit:  New responders, note that each recorder was used twice on each song.

« Last Edit: October 21, 2008, 12:12:36 AM by Will_S »

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2008, 10:11:32 AM »
i now know the "answer" and i listened again
i think the vocals you can hear a slight difference if you really pay attn
the music i can't hear anything

Hmmm.  This is not meant to be a gotcha*, but would you say this is from the same recorder as clip A or from the other recorder (anyone can answer, please say same as A or not rather than which recorder if you've seen the spoiler):

http://homepage.mac.com/satterwill/FR2LEComparison/CompCallingU.flac

*I think I might be hearing the same thing as you but it's hard to say since I know where everything came from but this new one should be blind for you.
i'll pm you
if i post public it might give away the goes together
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 12:30:23 PM »
I'm interested in what digifish is wondering. I have a stock FR2LE and when I recording just recording people talking, I have to raise the gain A LOT and this is with an AT822. How much of a difference could/would the mod make for that kind of situation. Everything I've read about this recorder (other than here) indicates it would be great for a 'field reporting' and recording. I would completely disagree unless my recorder has some major problems.
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2008, 02:10:51 PM »
I'm interested in what digifish is wondering. I have a stock FR2LE and when I recording just recording people talking, I have to raise the gain A LOT and this is with an AT822. How much of a difference could/would the mod make for that kind of situation. Everything I've read about this recorder (other than here) indicates it would be great for a 'field reporting' and recording. I would completely disagree unless my recorder has some major problems.
check to make sure your mic trim is not set to high

How do I make sure its not too high? Usually I HAVE to use the knobs to adjust it all the way to the right for more gain.
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2008, 03:30:08 PM »
I must not have a very good speaker system at home because I had a hard time telling any difference.  Either that or my hearing's shot.

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2008, 03:46:09 PM »
I must not have a very good speaker system at home because I had a hard time telling any difference.  Either that or my hearing's shot.
Maybe you have to take the xen approach to the ? and instead of looking for a difference look for what sounds good to your ears. ;)
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2008, 11:28:50 PM »
Maybe you're right.  I shall try to Zen it tomorrow night when I have some free time. haha

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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2008, 12:20:18 AM »
I'm interested in what digifish is wondering. I have a stock FR2LE and when I recording just recording people talking, I have to raise the gain A LOT and this is with an AT822. How much of a difference could/would the mod make for that kind of situation. Everything I've read about this recorder (other than here) indicates it would be great for a 'field reporting' and recording. I would completely disagree unless my recorder has some major problems.
check to make sure your mic trim is not set to high

How do I make sure its not too high? Usually I HAVE to use the knobs to adjust it all the way to the right for more gain.
hmm yeah to the right is the least amount of trim
i was thinking maybe you have them to the left and so it was cutting your signal down and in turn forcing you to turn up the gain
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Re: Comparison: Stock vs. Busman T-Mod Fostex FR2LE
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2008, 09:42:59 AM »
Identities of the individual tracks, as well as the statistics on how people did, will be revealed tonight, probably around 10-11 Pacific time.  Get your blind opionions in while you can!

 

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