Author Topic: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2 (Read 21427 times)

Rick · « **on:** March 22, 2005, 09:17:25 AM »

Not much new news on the MINIR82.....BUT!.... I didn't know there was a MINIR2 ("affordable robust, compact and easy to use recorder"). I wodner how much cheaper that one will be.

March 21. 2005 (http://www.sonosax.ch/SONOSAX-NAB-AES-05.htm)

SONOSAX MINIR82 a miniature 2 to 8 tracks Hard Disk and CompactFlash Card recorder that fits in a pocket ! Despite its reduced size - only120 x 80 x 28 mm (4.75” x 3.15” x 1.1”) for a weight of approx. 450 gr (1/2 pound) with 4x AA batteries, the MINIR82 will fullfill all the different requirements commonly found in mobile recording.

With Recording capabilities from 44,1kHz up to 192 kHz at 24bits, it provides with 2x microphone pre-amp with Limiter and LF Cut, 2x Line inputs at fixed level, 8x AES/EBU Digital Inputs and Full Time Code functionalities including HDTV format ! Its intuitive menu allows users to freely configurate tracks and media assignement.

SONOSAX MINIR2 build in the same housing and based on the same technology as the MINIR82. This 2 tracks CompactFlash Card recorder is designed to offer journalists and reporters an affordable robust, compact and easy to use recorder thank's to its advanced Automatic Gain Controller. Numerous factory presets will help users to rapidly and easily sets the 2 microphone pre-amps according to microphone type and recording environnement.

John Kelly · « **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2005, 11:23:20 AM »

Affordable, eh? I'll believe it when I see it.

+T for the find

Popmarter · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:39:31 AM »

I got a message from SANOSAX, Release is set for JUNE!

Ed. · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:42:01 AM »

fingers crossed

isn't the 82 supposed to be like $10k tho?

John Kelly · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:48:01 AM »

Quote from: Edizzle on March 24, 2005, 11:42:01 AM

fingers crossed

isn't the 82 supposed to be like $10k tho?

I think they said they were shooting for under $8k msrp.

Tim · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM »

Quote from: John Kelly on March 24, 2005, 11:48:01 AM

Quote from: Edizzle on March 24, 2005, 11:42:01 AM
fingers crossed

isn't the 82 supposed to be like $10k tho?

I think they said they were shooting for under $8k msrp.

that's much more reasonable

nickgregory · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:54:10 AM »

Quote from: Tim on March 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM

that's much more reasonable

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

Ed. · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:05:25 PM »

Quote from: nickgregory on March 24, 2005, 11:54:10 AM

Quote from: Tim on March 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
that's much more reasonable

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

haha +t

John Kelly · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:10:29 PM »

Quote from: nickgregory on March 24, 2005, 11:54:10 AM

Quote from: Tim on March 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
that's much more reasonable

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

So, in other words, it's doable.

nickgregory · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2005, 01:11:17 PM »

Quote from: John Kelly on March 24, 2005, 12:10:29 PM

So, in other words, it's doable.

oh yeah, if I hadnt already Jedi mind tricked her into letting me get a 722

Ed. · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2005, 01:52:46 AM »

well even if its expensive as hell, i think this one wins the prize for being the smallest.

silentmark · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2005, 08:15:09 AM »

Quote from: nickgregory on March 24, 2005, 11:54:10 AM

Quote from: Tim on March 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
that's much more reasonable

yup, in addition to the gear I already sold I would only have to sell 82 pints of blood, 10 gallons of sperm and my wife into slavery

bwahahahahahahahahaha, nice ...

Popmarter · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2005, 03:46:31 AM »

Picture Picture Picture!!!!

http://www.sonosax.ch/

Can someone take a look?
NAB 2005 / LasVegas March 18 - 21. Booth nr N4225
118th AES / Barcelona May 28 – 31. Booth nr 3505

caymanreview · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2005, 03:53:19 AM »

wow, small

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2005, 03:56:21 AM »

nice!

Ed. · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2005, 10:38:03 AM »

please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable....

*crosses fingers*

John Kelly · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2005, 10:42:59 AM »

Quote from: SpeshulEd on April 10, 2005, 10:38:03 AM

please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable, please be affordable....

*crosses fingers*

What do you consider affordable? Sonosax already said they're shooting for an "under $8000" msrp.

Ed. · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2005, 10:54:47 AM »

isn't that for the 82 tho? i don't really need 8 inputs. i'm hoping the r2 is the affordable one. and i'd say around $1000-$1500 would be affordable for what they're offering.

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SONOSAX MINIR2 build in the same housing and based on the same technology as the MINIR82. This 2 tracks CompactFlash Card recorder is designed to offer journalists and reporters an affordable robust, compact and easy to use recorder thank's to its advanced Automatic Gain Controller. Numerous factory presets will help users to rapidly and easily sets the 2 microphone pre-amps according to microphone type and recording environnement.

they do say affordable in their description. seriously, i'd say around the cost of the 722 would still be affordable, based on what this can do and what the mic preamps are like.

tchoub · « **Reply #18 on:** April 10, 2005, 11:29:37 AM »

The MINIR2 should be available in august 2005 for ~ 2500 euros.
No idea of the MINIR82 price but it should be out in june 2005.

Ed. · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2005, 11:33:06 AM »

around $3300 then... $:-\$

mmedley. · « **Reply #20 on:** April 11, 2005, 12:19:55 AM »

That sounds about right. A SX-M2 runs about $1000. I think this is what I'm gonna go after. At least I have time to save up for one!

relaxing · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2005, 01:58:26 PM »

Quote from: Ed Swearengen on April 10, 2005, 11:33:06 AM

around $3300 then... $:-\$

Assuming the dollar stops dropping $:-\$ $:-\$

wboswell · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2005, 02:46:59 PM »

I love the wristband. Because you never know when you'll need it.

marc0789 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2005, 02:58:16 PM »

looks like a high-end MD.

John Kelly · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2005, 02:59:52 PM »

Quote from: Billy Sol Hurok on April 13, 2005, 02:58:16 PM

looks like a high-end MD.

I don't think the end gets much higher.

nickgregory · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2005, 05:31:39 PM »

so if this thing is all in one...where do you plug the mics in? or will you need a XLR->1/4" converter?

John Kelly · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2005, 05:45:32 PM »

Quote from: nickgregory on April 13, 2005, 05:31:39 PM

so if this thing is all in one...where do you plug the mics in? or will you need a XLR->1/4" converter?

No one knows yet...

gewwang · « **Reply #27 on:** April 13, 2005, 05:52:00 PM »

In the picture, it looks like maybe some lemo connectors in the front.

drewloo · « **Reply #28 on:** April 13, 2005, 10:13:39 PM »

I wonder if it'll use some type of break-out dongle or something.

tchoub · « **Reply #29 on:** April 25, 2005, 10:35:20 AM »

A new picture of the MiniR82 and the MiniR2 next to each other can be found :
Here (bottom of the page)

Tim · « **Reply #30 on:** April 25, 2005, 10:54:37 AM »

beautiful looking machines...

John Kelly · « **Reply #31 on:** April 25, 2005, 11:06:53 AM »

Lookin good.

udovdh · « **Reply #32 on:** May 22, 2005, 04:52:48 AM »

Any updates on this device?
More specs?
Availability?

setboy · « **Reply #33 on:** July 09, 2005, 06:46:49 PM »

any up dates?

MBHOTAPER · « **Reply #34 on:** July 11, 2005, 03:30:29 PM »

Seriously looking into losing my DAP1 & going w/the new SAX 2 channel, or the Marantz pmd 671 or the M-Audio in the fal.

Does anyone have an idea if any of them will be worth using their pre or would I be better off using an external (MP2, V2, Aerco, etc.) and just using the AD and CF recorder?

Thanks for the help.

b-moreman · « **Reply #35 on:** July 12, 2005, 05:47:46 PM »

For all you (us) sonosax feaks!!!
http://sonosax.com/images_new_site/KNIFE.jpg

flintstone · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2005, 02:01:45 PM »

Here's a link to preliminary specs for the MiniR82 8 channel recorder

http://www.sonosax.com/MINIR82/MINIR-PRELIMINARY.htm

Estimated delivery September 2005, price $6,000 USD.

Flintstone

Rick · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2005, 02:19:00 PM »

hmmm, wonder what the 2 channel ends up at.

nickgregory · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2005, 02:20:34 PM »

free software upgrades for a year...gotta love that...setting it up so that they can continue to get revenue from you in the future

wbrisette · « **Reply #39 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:04:36 AM »

Quote from: flintstone on July 25, 2005, 02:01:45 PM

Estimated delivery September 2005, price $6,000 USD.

And people thought I paid a hefty price for the Deva IV... 6K, only 2 analog inputs, no hard drive... thanks but no thanks. I don't think this is going to be the home run they are hoping for.

Wayne

John Kelly · « **Reply #40 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:10:14 AM »

It says 20-30 gig internal hard drive...

nickgregory · « **Reply #41 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM »

Quote from: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 07:04:36 AM

Quote from: flintstone on July 25, 2005, 02:01:45 PM
Estimated delivery September 2005, price $6,000 USD.

And people thought I paid a hefty price for the Deva IV... 6K, only 2 analog inputs, no hard drive... thanks but no thanks. I don't think this is going to be the home run they are hoping for.

Wayne

I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

wbrisette · « **Reply #42 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:26:21 AM »

Quote from: John Kelly on July 26, 2005, 07:10:14 AM

It says 20-30 gig internal hard drive...

Yep, you're right. I missed that part. I saw the CF option, but somehow skipped right over the HD info.

Wayne

wbrisette · « **Reply #43 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:31:28 AM »

Quote from: nickgregory on July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM

I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

I don't think that's right. It looks like they are all 8 channel devices (MINIR82), you just have the option of setting them up as 2 to 8 channel devices. However, this is really a marketing ploy because you're still limited to only two analog inputs. The rest of the channels come from the AES inputs, so you'll need a nice Cooper or Sonosax mixer (there's another 6-8K)....

Wayne

keepongoin · « **Reply #44 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:58:38 AM »

Quote from: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 07:31:28 AM

Quote from: nickgregory on July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

I don't think that's right. It looks like they are all 8 channel devices (MINIR82), you just have the option of setting them up as 2 to 8 channel devices. However, this is really a marketing ploy because you're still limited to only two analog inputs. The rest of the channels come from the AES inputs, so you'll need a nice Cooper or Sonosax mixer (there's another 6-8K)....

Wayne

or, you could run a bunch of V3s and Mini-Mes in front of it.

wbrisette · « **Reply #45 on:** July 26, 2005, 08:26:51 AM »

Quote from: keepongoin' on July 26, 2005, 07:58:38 AM

or, you could run a bunch of V3s and Mini-Mes in front of it.

Let's see, timing cables, and data cables... check.... Now there's a mass of wiring.

Wayne

John Kelly · « **Reply #46 on:** July 26, 2005, 08:33:56 AM »

Quote from: wbrisette on July 26, 2005, 07:31:28 AM

Quote from: nickgregory on July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
I read the $6000 as the 8 channel version...in the second paragraph down it says the 2 channel version, more details will be released in september

I don't think that's right. It looks like they are all 8 channel devices (MINIR82), you just have the option of setting them up as 2 to 8 channel devices. However, this is really a marketing ploy because you're still limited to only two analog inputs. The rest of the channels come from the AES inputs, so you'll need a nice Cooper or Sonosax mixer (there's another 6-8K)....

Wayne

They're also making a MINIR2 that will be just 2 channels. Details for that are coming in Sept.

wbrisette · « **Reply #47 on:** July 26, 2005, 09:19:27 AM »

Quote from: John Kelly on July 26, 2005, 08:33:56 AM

They're also making a MINIR2 that will be just 2 channels. Details for that are coming in Sept.

Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you meant you thought the 6K was for the 2 channel version.

I wouldn't hold your breath for the 2 channel to come much under 2K though. Sonosax has some nice gear out there, but they have always been on the high end of the pricing scheme.

Wayne

MBHOTAPER · « **Reply #48 on:** July 28, 2005, 09:14:11 AM »

INPUTS

Two balanced Mic/Line Input using high end mic preamp technology on 7 pin miniature connectors.

Got this fron Sonosax. What is a 7 pin connector? Can I get cables made for XLR to 7 pin connectors?

wbrisette · « **Reply #49 on:** July 28, 2005, 09:34:52 AM »

Quote from: MBHOTAPER on July 28, 2005, 09:14:11 AM

INPUTS

Two balanced Mic/Line Input using high end mic preamp technology on 7 pin miniature connectors.

Got this fron Sonosax. What is a 7 pin connector? Can I get cables made for XLR to 7 pin connectors?

My guess is they'll supply the cable that will allow you to go from XLR to the 7 pin connector. I think hirose makes a 7 pin connector, and since these seem to be the rage on any gear aimed at hollyweird, this may be what they use. But they'll probably either ship it with the unit (one would think this is the route they will go), or at least offer it as an option.

Wayne

mmedley. · « **Reply #50 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:19:23 PM »

More info and a September release!

http://www.sonosax.com

Ray76 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:06:14 PM »

so this isnt an all in one, just a preamp/capture ? or is it/

for some reason the ssax site isnt working on my browser

Rick · « **Reply #52 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:26:02 PM »

Quote from: BigRay on August 23, 2005, 10:06:14 PM

so this isnt an all in one, just a preamp/capture ? or is it/

Sonosax makes pretty good pre-amps, so I'm thinking it should an all-in-one solution.. I'm not even sure the 2 channel version has digital in, so it better be an all-in-one

Ray76 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 24, 2005, 06:58:33 AM »

Quote from: Rick on August 23, 2005, 10:26:02 PM

Quote from: BigRay on August 23, 2005, 10:06:14 PM
so this isnt an all in one, just a preamp/capture ? or is it/

Sonosax makes pretty good pre-amps, so I'm thinking it should an all-in-one solution.. I'm not even sure the channel has digital in, so it better be an all-in-one

interesting. ill call em today. Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #54 on:** August 24, 2005, 09:59:02 AM »

Quote from: BigRay on August 24, 2005, 06:58:33 AM

Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Have you ever actually used an SX-M2?

Ray76 · « **Reply #55 on:** August 24, 2005, 10:07:47 AM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on August 24, 2005, 09:59:02 AM

Quote from: BigRay on August 24, 2005, 06:58:33 AM
Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Have you ever actually used an SX-M2?

LMAO!!!

No Brian, I havent. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16267&page=0

You dont remember this ??

Ray76 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 24, 2005, 10:17:34 AM »

Quote from: BigRay on August 24, 2005, 10:07:47 AM

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on August 24, 2005, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: BigRay on August 24, 2005, 06:58:33 AM
Hope this box doesnt smear the high end like the m2

Have you ever actually used an SX-M2?

LMAO!!!

No Brian, I havent. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16267&page=0

You dont remember this ??

"Why on earth use the sonosax in front of the 744?
744 has a way superior pre. Sonosax smears the high end big time... Sorry for the rant. just my .."

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #57 on:** August 24, 2005, 03:30:48 PM »

Quote from: BigRay on August 24, 2005, 10:17:34 AM

Quote from: BigRay on August 24, 2005, 10:07:47 AM
LMAO!!!

No Brian, I havent. http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16267&page=0

You dont remember this ??

"Why on earth use the sonosax in front of the 744?
744 has a way superior pre. Sonosax smears the high end big time... Sorry for the rant. just my .."

Forgot about that one!

Ray76 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 24, 2005, 04:19:30 PM »

Yeah, I actually like the Sonosax, from what ive heard of it.

mmedley. · « **Reply #59 on:** August 24, 2005, 04:23:13 PM »

I think it is the best pre-amp when it comes to Schoeps.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #60 on:** August 25, 2005, 10:03:42 PM »

Quote from: martin on August 24, 2005, 04:23:13 PM

I think it is the best pre-amp when it comes to Schoeps.

QFMFT, i think the schopes>sax>whatever sounds GRAND, best phish section/FOB rig IMO

Popmarter · « **Reply #61 on:** September 11, 2005, 01:26:56 PM »

with the micro track coming up and seeing the price of this unit....i guess nobody is intrested anymore?

Ray76 · « **Reply #62 on:** September 11, 2005, 01:34:17 PM »

there are some interested..i hear buzz about it in germany a lot.

Ive heard several mention it here too.

but yeah...the MT will probably make a lot of money from TS.com

Ray76 · « **Reply #63 on:** September 11, 2005, 01:41:14 PM »

Quote from: Moke on September 11, 2005, 01:38:27 PM

what is the pricing? I looked at the sonosax site, and I saw it listed 6'000

thats for the bigger one...(I think) I think the 2 channel version is like 3,000??I think thats what I heard...

Ray76 · « **Reply #64 on:** September 11, 2005, 02:02:55 PM »

Quote from: Moke on September 11, 2005, 01:44:50 PM

$3k ?? wtf?

The MT oughta make some bucks out of here is right!

The MINIR2 should be available in august 2005 for ~ 2500 euros.
No idea of the MINIR82 price but it should be out in june 2005.

The MINIR82 is 8 channels and 6,000 dollars... minir2 is about 3400 bucks. from these prices..

nickgregory · « **Reply #65 on:** September 11, 2005, 07:37:23 PM »

Quote from: Moke on September 11, 2005, 01:44:50 PM

$3k ?? wtf?

The MT oughta make some bucks out of here is right!

all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

setboy · « **Reply #66 on:** September 12, 2005, 10:30:45 AM »

Quote from: nickgregory on September 11, 2005, 07:37:23 PM

all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

QFT

gewwang · « **Reply #67 on:** September 12, 2005, 10:33:40 AM »

Quote from: nickgregory on September 11, 2005, 07:37:23 PM

all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

It's got a remote which the maudio and the r1 don't have. As long as you can view levels on it, that's a huge feature for stealthing.

udovdh · « **Reply #68 on:** September 13, 2005, 05:23:11 AM »

Quote from: gewwang on September 12, 2005, 10:33:40 AM

Quote from: nickgregory on September 11, 2005, 07:37:23 PM
all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

It's got a remote which the maudio and the r1 don't have. As long as you can view levels on it, that's a huge feature for stealthing.

Why?
If you have to adjust some part is already clipping or at least not so well recorded. If this happens during a show this is no good.

nickgregory · « **Reply #69 on:** September 13, 2005, 07:31:57 AM »

Quote from: udovdh on September 13, 2005, 05:23:11 AM

Quote from: gewwang on September 12, 2005, 10:33:40 AM
Quote from: nickgregory on September 11, 2005, 07:37:23 PM
all depends, if this box has a quality pre built into it similar to ths sax pre and a reasonable limiter, this could be competition to the 722...especially in stealthing situations

It's got a remote which the maudio and the r1 don't have. As long as you can view levels on it, that's a huge feature for stealthing.
Why?
If you have to adjust some part is already clipping or at least not so well recorded. If this happens during a show this is no good.

because volume goes up throughout shows in a lot of cases...this allows you to react rather than be blind because you have the recorder running in your pocket/fanny pack and no idea it is clipping...most stealthers know how to set their gear so that they are bumping zero's then to keep an eye on it and keep levels in check....

Author Topic: Sonosax MINIR82 and MINIR2 (Read 21427 times)

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