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Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« on: September 20, 2005, 11:59:12 AM »
So, there's a lot of hype about the Microtracker going on, possibly deservedly so.  But I was wondering, what is it about the R-1 (or what it lacks?) that makes everyone want a Microtracker so badly?
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 12:07:07 PM »
For me, the R1's lack of digi-in.
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 12:09:29 PM »
for me, the comparison should be against the Marantz 671.
less than half the cost of the 722 (even after mods by Oade + CF cards) and verified to work...out of the box.


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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 12:18:53 PM »
It's much smaller than the R1, even if I have to use a USB AA battery sled.

It will take digital-in, maybe, if the firmware is fixed.

It will record at 24/96 not just 24/44.1.

The firmware fix is supposed to start up new files seamlessly at the 2 GB limit, while the R1 hasn't updated firmware since the end of last year and has not promised this fix.

Len at Core Sound says the phantom power measures at only 30V, I doubt there is a fix for this, so folks who wanted phantom may be disappointed with it.

Still, I'm using my R1 until the MT gets shaken out a bit more.

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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2005, 12:41:46 PM »
For me, the R1's lack of digi-in.

I didn't even notice this, as I intend to use the R-1's internal a/d, so this is a good point.
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 12:55:08 PM »
the R1's internal A/D is surprisingly great sounding...fwiw

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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2005, 12:58:03 PM »
the R1's internal A/D is surprisingly great sounding...fwiw

that's what I hear from others...  ;)
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2005, 01:18:33 PM »
The firmware fix is supposed to start up new files seamlessly at the 2 GB limit, while the R1 hasn't updated firmware since the end of last year and has not promised this fix.

they told me privately that this was being worked on, fyi.

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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 05:45:34 PM »
2 things... so should I be considering the R1? I know it doesn't LOOK as nice as the MicroTrack but that's not what I'm buying for... and I ALSO don't care about digital in.

Other thing... I ALSO think the comparison should maybe be between the 671... should I just get THAT? But the issue there is I plan to use it LINE-IN and not MIC-IN 'cause I need to change levels on the fly!

Which brings me to my third thing (so I lied when I said only two)... sleepypedro! Aren't you supposed to be sending somebody a picture of your MP-2?  ::)
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2005, 01:07:51 PM »
Anyone running Neumann ak40>sonosax>r1 ?
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2005, 01:11:48 PM »
Anyone running Neumann ak40>sonosax>r1 ?

If the R1 and the R4 A/Ds are anything alike, I'd imagine it would sound quite nice. The R4 is definitely a big step up soundwise from the UA5.
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2005, 01:33:37 PM »
Anyone running Neumann ak40>sonosax>r1 ?

I've been running dpa4022>sonosax>r1 off and on since April 30th and been happy with the adc.

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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2005, 02:48:41 PM »
Anyone running Neumann ak40>sonosax>r1 ?

I've been running dpa4022>sonosax>r1 off and on since April 30th and been happy with the adc.

With or without the Oade mods ?
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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2005, 02:55:38 PM »
Anyone running Neumann ak40>sonosax>r1 ?

I've been running dpa4022>sonosax>r1 off and on since April 30th and been happy with the adc.

With or without the Oade mods ?

without mods, straight out of the box.

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Re: Microtracker vs Edirol R-1
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2005, 04:14:02 AM »
Just over 2 hours on a 2gb disc....what about the LONG sets!  What mr. Wobbly here should really be asking is:

Will this improve over DPA 4061>SP-SPSB-1>Oade SBM-1>DIY Opti>JB3 :P

That's what I'm really asking also.  To my ears the problem with the JB3 is the low levels no matter how hot you can get those 4061s.  Those mics sounds SIGNIFICANTLY better when they're running hot so what's the deal with the gain selection in these machines?
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