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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2005, 08:19:26 PM »
$1550, includes 4 gb flash memory.  Seems like the same ball park as an ACM 671.

http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=sonpcmd1
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2005, 03:04:25 AM »
if the mics are pretty good it'd be an awesome stealth box. 

talk about all in one. 

i really wanna hear those mics.

Who will be brave enough to act like a mic stand for hrs and hold this thing up towards the stage? Don't think any one doing stealthing want to expose themselves doing that. It's like asking for trouble. Definately not for stealthing!
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2005, 03:17:40 AM »
Sony has finally put up more information on the PCM D-1:

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=0&p=10&sp=83&id=82662

Any thoughts of the specs?

no digital input = crap.

sony is missing the boat with this one.  a totally and utterly useless piece of junk, IMO... and i think that is true for most everyone... built in mics and a 1/8" input as the only inputs... jeezus, who the hell decided on this design? 

OK...I understand.  But for some uses, neither of those might be a big deal.  What if the mics sound great? Apart from those, any indication on the quality of the other components?  I am trying to get an idea if there is anything in the specs that indicate how good this thing might sound.

My use would be to record live classical music...solo or small ensemble type settings...

Thanks.

You going to hold this thing up throughout the concert and look up at the meters while recording? It does not sound too practical if you sacrifice your body as the mic stand. ;) You cann't adjust the mic spacing/position either.
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2005, 10:08:58 AM »

Who will be brave enough to act like a mic stand for hrs and hold this thing up towards the stage? Don't think any one doing stealthing want to expose themselves doing that. It's like asking for trouble. Definately not for stealthing!

It might fit in a very large hat.  You could stealth rodeos and amish shows.

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2005, 12:00:40 PM »

Who will be brave enough to act like a mic stand for hrs and hold this thing up towards the stage? Don't think any one doing stealthing want to expose themselves doing that. It's like asking for trouble. Definately not for stealthing!

It might fit in a very large hat.  You could stealth rodeos and amish shows.

+T for discovering the market segment Sony is aiming at.  Anyone have any FLAC files to share of hot Amish shows?

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2005, 12:01:20 PM »
If you go to Sony's Japanese website they have a picture of some sort of tripod that I guess they will make available with it:

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200511/05-1109/

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2005, 01:44:58 PM »
If you go to Sony's Japanese website they have a picture of some sort of tripod that I guess they will make available with it:

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200511/05-1109/


that is pretty funny.  still doesn't solve all the problems that it potentially has... built in, non-adjustable mics, not digi-input, etc...
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2005, 01:53:22 PM »
If you go to Sony's Japanese website they have a picture of some sort of tripod that I guess they will make available with it:

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200511/05-1109/


that is pretty funny.  still doesn't solve all the problems that it potentially has... built in, non-adjustable mics, not digi-input, etc...

You know, there are actually some comments on boards that claim the thing is a photoshop hoax.  Obviously we know by now that it is not, but its very telling that some people looked at it and thought it was.

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2005, 02:23:02 PM »
can those goofy ass mics be bypassed? because if not, this is one of the dumbest contraptions ever. having trouble even envisioning how this would be easy to use on location, let alone ambient taping. ::)

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2005, 02:25:51 PM »
can those goofy ass mics be bypassed? because if not, this is one of the dumbest contraptions ever. having trouble even envisioning how this would be easy to use on location, let alone ambient taping. ::)
That;d be a nice mod. rip off the mics and add xlrs. but then you've just gutted a $2000 memorystick recorder.
yuk.

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2005, 02:45:03 PM »
can those goofy ass mics be bypassed? because if not, this is one of the dumbest contraptions ever. having trouble even envisioning how this would be easy to use on location, let alone ambient taping. ::)
That;d be a nice mod. rip off the mics and add xlrs. but then you've just gutted a $2000 memorystick recorder.
yuk.

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not talking about ripping them off. I asked if they could be *bypassed*, Mr. ADD. :P

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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2005, 02:53:23 PM »
one way to bypass would be to get a PS-2 and power your mics - get the one with stereo mini-jack output, and you have effectively bypassed them... not that i would do such a thing, but it is possible that way.
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2005, 03:50:20 PM »
If you go to Sony's Japanese website they have a picture of some sort of tripod that I guess they will make available with it:

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200511/05-1109/


that is pretty funny.  still doesn't solve all the problems that it potentially has... built in, non-adjustable mics, not digi-input, etc...

Maybe that would work for onstage taping?  I wonder how much Sony spent making this thing, and I wonder how many they will sell. 

You know, there are actually some comments on boards that claim the thing is a photoshop hoax.  Obviously we know by now that it is not, but its very telling that some people looked at it and thought it was.
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2005, 04:01:59 PM »
That;d be a nice mod. rip off the mics and add xlrs. but then you've just gutted a $2000 memorystick recorder.
yuk.

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not talking about ripping them off. I asked if they could be *bypassed*, Mr. ADD. :P

I think you're reading too much sarcasm into my post. I actually mean ripping them off in the sense of using the appropriate tools (read: not a hammer.)
But really, I think the device is more worthy of leaving on a shelf until sony gets it right.
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Re: Sony Debuts PCM-D1 Field Recorder at AES
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2005, 05:09:25 PM »
If you go to Sony's Japanese website they have a picture of some sort of tripod that I guess they will make available with it:

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200511/05-1109/


that is pretty funny.  still doesn't solve all the problems that it potentially has... built in, non-adjustable mics, not digi-input, etc...

Now that I look at it a bit more, I see another way to use it in the field (and thus the intended market).  It could very well be a modular snap-on head for the lateat model Aibo Robot Dog.

Jeff

 

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