Topic: So ... recording with the iRiver. finally feasable?

[flintstone]

Does the large remote for the H120 and H140 have a button to turn the recorder on and off?   

Flintstone

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what about the newer H10... can this be used for taping? anyone?

[whatboutbob]

Flintstone: yes

Stejampzy: Not really.  The H10 doesn't record to wav (mp3 only).

A patch for a very configurable Automatic Gain Control has just been added to rockbox for the iriver hxxx: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2841.0

I'm yet to test it, but it looks like a lot of thought has gone into it.  The peak histogram looks kinda funky too.

Petur's put in some work recently to make the clip-meter far more sensitive too.

[firmdragon]

just thought i'd share my experiences using this machine.

i have been using it for a little while now w/o the recording enhancement pack, and so far no real complaints yet.  i use dpa 4061s with it.  right now for stealth situations, i don't even use a battery box now, nor do i even add gain (normalize later) during recording.  nice to be able to keep things so simple.  however i do figure i may need to upgrade w/ the recording enhancements pack in order to get negative gain when i go see arena shows..

had one minicrisis the other day.  did a show, and left it on hold from the beginning to the end so 3+ hours straight recording.  now, i know it was recording because instead of checking levels, all i do is look for the red light indicating that the hd is in use.  at the end of the show i stopped recording and tried to turn the machine off.  took a little while, and when i tried to play the file again, it wasn't play able.  first thing i noticed was that there was only one file.  there should have been 2 due to the length.  i got home and found that the file was 0 bytes. eeep.

was able to fix this after reading the rockbox.org forums.  all i had to do was 'chkdsk /f' the hd.  then yes to recovering the lost chain.  the wav header is screwed up but the data is all there and open-up-able in your regular audio programs.  at least data recovery here is easier than on an MD.

by the way, does the iriver have some sort of kill switch which shuts the machine off via hardware? i tried playing the recovered file on the iriver and the machine just froze up.  couldn't even turn it off.  had to leave it on all night until the battery died

*edit*: figured it out.  i just wasn't pressing the reset button hard enough.

[rsimms3]

I would still recommend using a battery box with the 4061s.  I have recorded a few things with the 4061s straight into the iRiver, but get the feeling they are under powered.  I am not certain though.  One of my recordings seemed a bit distorted at points though it never clipped.  I don't think the iRiver provides enough power for the 4061s.  Most posts I have seen say it provides less than 5v, around 3.2v and the 4061s need a minimum of 5v.  They work, but I don't think they work to the full potential going straight into the iRiver.  I don't have a lot of chances to test this out so I can't really say this is all for certain.  Others report going 4061s straight into the iRiver as well with no problems, if it works for you, keep it up but I would test it out with a battery box just to make sure.

[Will_S]

I've got a question about setting levels using the line in (with a mic) and Rockbox.  As I understand it, up to ~ +20 dB you are using the analog preamp to add gain.  Anything beyond that is digital gain, correct?  Are there any advantages or disadvantages to applying that digital gain during the recording process vs. in post-processing?  All else being equal, it seems like it would be safer to add the digital gain later, allowing you to normalize just below clipping.  But do you get more bits to work with doing it in real time?

[divamum]

Having finally made the jump to Rockbox on my H120, let me join the chorus of "WOOOOHOOO!!"

Bit of a learning curve to figuring out how to adjust the settings and getting the right version set up (one of them seemed to consistently crash the codecs on playback after - and only after - recording) but the one I'm using now works absolutely fine and has been stable so far.

Works a treat and the features are great - v impressed with the accurace of the rec meters, which (after using a JB3) wasn't something I was too hopeful about!! But they're great and I got a good first-time-out-under-Rockbox recording just using those.

This and the JB3 will hold me nicely until I'm ready to jump to 24 bit.  And I have to admit that now the iRiver can do the longer file lenghts, it may trump the JB3 for me on stealth gigs simply cause I CAN use the built-in pre and thus have less to carry.  I still heart my JB3, but no doubt that less gear is a Very Good Thing as far as I'm concerned.....

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fyi, I started Team iRiver in the Team Boards section... come on down and share your experiences, questions and answers:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=62469.0

[playit_leo]

Ok, so I haven't read every post yet cuz I'm new here, but what I really want to know and cant seem to find at the Rockbox site is
will an Iriver H320 or H340 support FM recording with Rockbox??  Anyone in the know??

thanks!

[Weazel]

the h3xx firmware is based on the H1xx firmware.
switch on your radio, browse to the recording menu select line in, and record while radio plays then it records from the radio.

[tscales]

I just noticed this, in case anyone has been shoping for one...

http://www.woot.com/

iRiver H10 20GB MP3 Player & Recorder - Remix Blue
$139.99+ $5 shipping

condition:
    Refurbished
product(s):
    1 iRiver H10 20GB MP3 Player/Recorder

[whatboutbob]

I just noticed this, in case anyone has been shoping for one...

http://www.woot.com/

iRiver H10 20GB MP3 Player & Recorder - Remix Blue
$139.99+ $5 shipping

condition:
    Refurbished
product(s):
    1 iRiver H10 20GB MP3 Player/Recorder

Please note that rockbox has not yet been ported to the H10 (as distinct from the H120 or H140) and they are note reliable recorders.

[whatboutbob]

Good news: It looks like rockbox will have at least initial support (and likely more) for optical recording on the h1x0 within 48 hours.

One of the senior devs decided to tackle it, and is reportedly a good chunk of the way through the dev.

[Sanjay]

these guys are great, we should send them a fruit basket or something...

[shaggy]

Yeah, so after I tried to see what was up with the dev of this on the RB feature request flyspray board (and posted a comment), I got slapped with 'stop waiting and start working' from badger.  So, I guess even after I warned you guys not to bother the developers, I went and did it myself....I am a FUCKIN' IDIOT!

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3041