Topic: Microtrack 24/96 Firmware 1.4.0

[gmm6797]

By all indications, your R1 was defective.   So I don't see how that applies.
As far as suggesting via third party account that the 722 has "issues"... Can you name one?

Yes it was defective, but it just stopped working correctly, during a show, so there should always be that fear of others having similar issues.

A DMB taper (I would have to check and see who, as I do not recall off hand) had problems with his over heating and had to send it back for repairs (or replacement, it was last summer so I have lost track).  Not to mention lots of people who have their units get so hot (from the hard drive heat) that they almost burn body parts.

I love my R1 and the 722 (I have unlimited access to one) and am no way knocking them down, but new users should be made aware.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Not to mention lots of people who have their units get so hot (from the hard drive heat) that they almost burn body parts.

"almost burn" is kinda like "almost got run over by a garbage truck". Either you did or you didn't.

The 722 does get warm and can get hot.. But we simply don't see any reports of 'my 722 died' here. Or people getting burned by them.. Even people who have run them against their bodies for many many shows.

When I say 'issues', I'm talking lost recordings and major incidents that threaten recordings during shows.  Not 'it feels hot'....

[dallman]

This was a known flaw in 1.4.0 that the next version 1.4.1 B1  quickly discovered and fixed. The best version to run is the newest version, (Microtrack 1.4.1b2) not 1.4.0.

I just checked m-audio.com and it only shows 1.4.0... how/where can i find the "b2" version? 
TIA

make sure to select include beta versions

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&k=firmware&b=1&s=6&p=196cc4c35a380d800a80448f139bcfe7&o=15&f=734

[plucks]

well, i tried out the new firmware update last nite without pretesting after the install.
WSP @ red rocks, so i knew it would be a solid test run
NO PROBLEMS....ran 24/48 SPDIF from the V3 and so far nothing bad to report.
first set 1:05 using the Hitachi 4GB microdrive (it did get hot as hell in my bag, but it could have been b/c the top was closed)
2nd set: 1:48 + manual split during encore break using the 45x Kingston 4GB compact flash

looking forward to the rest of the weekend.

now if they can get the 2GB autosplit with no gap ,i will be a happy camper

no major problems again last nite.
the onyl weird thing that happened was after 1:35 of recording i did the manual split prior to the encore, but it seemed like it froze during the file save...i let it go for 30seconds which is ample time to finish saving before reseting via power button.
the complete file was there when i got home tho, so thats all that matters!

i suppose i'll have to check out the new beta firmware
3rd nite WSP using 1.4.0:  NO PROBLEMS @ 24/48

[bdasilva]

I never noticed this before. I bought a second 2 gig card (39.) so I could record SCI at 24 bits... During intermition I made a big deal of needing to do a "tape flip"... (cute). anyway I found a "bug". When you power down and then change cards and reboot... you might get a "no media found" or you go into "files" and it shows nothing... power down, reboot and then its fine.  It happens over and over.  Maybe somthing to be addressed or at least something to remember if your in a panic card flip hurry.

[blindman]

I never noticed this before. I bought a second 2 gig card (39.) so I could record SCI at 24 bits... During intermition I made a big deal of needing to do a "tape flip"... (cute). anyway I found a "bug". When you power down and then change cards and reboot... you might get a "no media found" or you go into "files" and it shows nothing... power down, reboot and then its fine.  It happens over and over.  Maybe somthing to be addressed or at least something to remember if your in a panic card flip hurry.

Did you have external battery/power attached? I only get this if I have my external battery attached. I can not remove the media if any form of external power is attached. I have to shut down, remove power connection then I can remove media. Once the new media is in, I can replace the external power and reboot to begin recording with the new media.

[JoeKiller]

I never noticed this before. I bought a second 2 gig card (39.) so I could record SCI at 24 bits... During intermition I made a big deal of needing to do a "tape flip"... (cute). anyway I found a "bug". When you power down and then change cards and reboot... you might get a "no media found" or you go into "files" and it shows nothing... power down, reboot and then its fine.  It happens over and over.  Maybe somthing to be addressed or at least something to remember if your in a panic card flip hurry.

Did you have external battery/power attached? I only get this if I have my external battery attached. I can not remove the media if any form of external power is attached. I have to shut down, remove power connection then I can remove media. Once the new media is in, I can replace the external power and reboot to begin recording with the new media.

Most definently true.  Always disconnect your external power before shutting down the box as it will just try to turn right back on with the USB power.

[Scooter]

yep, had a few screw-ups of the my own that were caused by not removing the batt power before restarting 

[china_rider]

Dumb question but was the card formatted?

[willndmb]

It's true but is an extra 8 minutes and 26 seconds really that big a deal?  Sure I'd like the 'extra' time too since it should be possible but I'm just happy that there were a bunch of bugs fixed.

For those that care, I cruched the numbers and here are the wav file record time for every bit depth, sample rate and mono and stereo configuraiton.  Along with how much more time we'd get if it used 1024 as the basis for it's calculations.
         
44100 / 16 / stereo   3:08:58   3:18:09   0:09:11
44100 / 24 / stereo   2:05:59   2:12:06   0:06:07
48000 / 16 / stereo   2:53:37   3:02:03   0:08:26
48000 / 24 / stereo   1:55:44   2:01:22   0:05:37
82000 / 16 / stereo   1:34:29   1:39:04   0:04:35
82000 / 24 / stereo   1:02:59   1:06:03   0:03:04
96000 / 16 / stereo   1:26:48   1:31:01   0:04:13
96000 / 24 / stereo   0:57:52   1:00:41   0:02:49

It's a difference of 4.85% more recording time per file. Again sure I wish I had it too just in case but I'm not overly bummed about it.

J.T.

i guess i don't get this stuff
i got a MT today and with a 4gb microdrive i am told i have 2:56.46 on 16 bit/(auto)
and 1:58.00 on 24 bit/(auto)

if i change from spdif to 1/8 i get
3:55.45 on 24/48
6:24.24 on 16/44.1

at any rate thanks for the time help

[china_rider]

Don't have a microtrack anymore... But if I remember right when set to record digital/auto the MT gives you the time remaining at 96k.  Sort of a worst case scenero.  That may change when you feed it a signal and it knows what sampling rate its set at.  When it records analog it knows what sampling rate ahead of time so it can give you a accurate estimate.

Here is a link on how to calculate sizes at different rates:
http://24bit.turtleside.com/pcm.wav.file.sizes.pdf