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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2007, 09:42:07 PM »
I ran a tube pre-> Tascam DSD before I gave up hauling around a golf cart battery now I've switched to the MR-1000+Neve Portico

Here are some Neve+DSD samples, DSD really has a euphonic quality about it that even survives downsapling...even mp3 encoding.  Check em' out. Microphone source for all recordings is a Stephen Paul Audio modified AKG C33e.

peace, chris

Mp3s:
All- Glen Phillips on vox (Various and Sundry Tour)- Exit Music (From a Film)
http://www.comebackdownload.com/Various%20and%20Sundry%20-%20Exit%20Music%20For%20a%20Film.mp3

Sara, Sean Watkins and Luke Bulla (Various and Sundry Tour)- Somebody More Like You.
http://www.comebackdownload.com/Various%20and%20Sundry%20-%20%20Somebody%20More%20Like%20You.mp3

Here is a full show on the archive from the TASCAM recorder:
http://www.archive.org/details/glen2005-08-30.dsd.flac


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My recordings and transfers at archive.org: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=berryman%20AND%20mediatype%3Aetree%20AND%20collection%3Aetree

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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2007, 05:23:21 AM »
welcome to the truth
dsd is the future, severly smokes pcm in quality.
i would choose dsd clearly over 722 pcm . embrace the future now.

pcm is decimated , dsd much more fluid & wider stream more detail, clearly audible.
its maths , dsd better than pcm
the answer is dsd even if found on a korg unit over 722.
you would want the quality, the depth & extra realism found in dsd on your recordings, you would believe not me but you once you play between dsd & pcm .
722 wont give you that no matter what its got, korg dsd unit smokes it hard due to dsd alone.

never run 722 or 1000 but only mr1 , thats blown me away and mr1000 doubles the mr1.
i will never use pcm ever again for recording.
it goes where no other rec has.
much respect for dsd i have.

goodluck on your choice and happy captures

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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2007, 06:38:18 AM »
welcome to the truth
dsd is the future, severly smokes pcm in quality.
i would choose dsd clearly over 722 pcm . embrace the future now.

Take it easy man. You have not even compared according to your own statement and here you state something as a TRUTH.

Personally I will save my judgement until it is based on experience. Just to put it into perspective, yes some recorders does not sound bad. Most of the bad ones use PCM. This does not mean that all PCM recorders sound bad.

My experience so far is that:
- the 722 sounds very close to what is input to the unit. Not quite as close as the combination of Millenium HV3D + Lavry Blue converters that I have in the large rig.
- very close to what is input is what I strive for, sounding good then is more of an estetically pleasing distortion. Sort of like the distortion you get playing electrical guitar through a fuzz unit, very right sometimes, very wrong at other times. If that is what dsd is about, I say no thanks. (Not that I believe that).
- the AD unit is not the most important part of my recording chain. I generally sort them in the following order, remember all my stuff is, hmm, "a bit above average".
   1) the talent
   2) the room  (as I record almost exclusively acoustic stuff)
   3) mic placement, a few feet of movement may be the difference between useable and really good
   4) the mics (2, 3 and 4 goes together as mic placement is dependant on the mic which is dependant on the room)
   5) the preamp and ad-converter
 
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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2007, 06:42:28 AM »
I realize for the community there needs to be a comp but for those of us who own the technology or have heard it there is absolutely no comparison. DSD just flat out sounds better even when it is downsampled. 

Carl, if you're ever in Boston and we're at a good show for it, we can try 722 with an analog out to DSD.
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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2007, 07:38:15 AM »
I realize for the community there needs to be a comp but for those of us who own the technology or have heard it there is absolutely no comparison. DSD just flat out sounds better even when it is downsampled. 

Carl, if you're ever in Boston and we're at a good show for it, we can try 722 with an analog out to DSD.

Well let's plan it then, I am in NH so Boston is easy. Honestly though for myself my mind is made up but I think we should do it for everyone else. Let me know what's coming up that you plan on catching.
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2007, 02:11:52 PM »
Carl, if you're ever in Boston and we're at a good show for it, we can try 722 with an analog out to DSD.

Just remember, the analog out on the 722 goes through AD and then DA inside the box. The comparison could be "interesting" when people start guessing what box is which, perhaps not quite fair though.

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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2007, 08:29:07 PM »
Carl, if you're ever in Boston and we're at a good show for it, we can try 722 with an analog out to DSD.

Just remember, the analog out on the 722 goes through AD and then DA inside the box. The comparison could be "interesting" when people start guessing what box is which, perhaps not quite fair though.

Gunnar

I didn't know that. Not that I doubt you, but I don't see that explicitly in the manual. What's your source?
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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2007, 08:33:05 PM »
I didn't know that. Not that I doubt you, but I don't see that explicitly in the manual. What's your source?

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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2007, 09:02:08 PM »
Damn, I was looking for it and found Matt from SD's response as well.

Carl, you going to any of the Lowell Summer Music shows? I'll be at Nickel Creek, MMW (probably), and the Flecktones.
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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2007, 09:16:18 PM »
I would probably do MMW, we can see how he analog outs are from the MR-1000 to see if that will work for the comp?
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2007, 06:36:15 AM »
Sure thing. That also prevents me from buying a set of cables. :)
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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2007, 07:46:33 AM »
I'll make a set of splitters for this comp...if there is interest.


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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2007, 07:47:21 AM »
and..i've been jonsin' for some MMW.  I haven't seen them since 2002.
Lowell show?  is that it?
August sometiime?

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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2007, 07:55:29 AM »
Actualy spliters are the way to go. Should we do just AD stages using external pre amps or all in one solution comps?
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



Mics: Telefunken Elam 260, 61, 62, MBHO KA200, KA500 > Niant PFA's, AKG C34L-MS
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Re: Sound Devices 722 vs Korg MR 1000
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2007, 08:43:12 AM »
we'll do it ALL !!!

 

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