yeah, I'm ove on this page
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/186739.phplooks like I only need 5 programs to get this thing to work right
EDIT: 7 programs, the audio on the avi files is mpeg layer 3 (mp3) and not ac3 so I have to use mkwACT to uncompress to wav and another progran to recompress to ac3.
Originally I thought I could fit more episodes of the sopranos on a disc, but when making MPEG 2 (m2v) files, you can't select a bit-rate lower than 2000 so the resulant is files bigger than you planned.
Again, I have yet to fully test this method on a stand alone DVD Video player