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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2009, 01:24:14 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2009, 01:38:39 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 

On the wall-wart that came with the r09hr, look very closely at the back side of the plug that goes into the unit. They have it diagrammed on the plug as being tip positive.
A VOM confirms this.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2009, 03:34:05 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 

On the wall-wart that came with the r09hr, look very closely at the back side of the plug that goes into the unit. They have it diagrammed on the plug as being tip positive.
A VOM confirms this.

Cool, is this standard or is ring positive standard?  I just bought an external battery for it and need to make a cable so I'm just making sure.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2009, 03:44:03 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 

On the wall-wart that came with the r09hr, look very closely at the back side of the plug that goes into the unit. They have it diagrammed on the plug as being tip positive.
A VOM confirms this.

Cool, is this standard or is ring positive standard?  I just bought an external battery for it and need to make a cable so I'm just making sure.

I have always considered tip positive to be standard, but here of late, I am seeing more and more consumer electronics that are ring positive. So I guess it's pretty much up to whomever designs the item to choose.
 
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2009, 12:57:16 PM »
A while ago I bought a Lenmar PPU2100B external battery.  I am wondering if you folks know A) whether it will work with the R-09HR, B) how long it will work for the R-09HR, and C) If / where I can find a cable to take the power from the Lenmar product to R-09hr (Lenmar spits out power via USB).

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2009, 03:56:21 PM »
What if you were to get one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Initial-Universal-Portable-DVD-battery-Brand-New-Inpack_W0QQitemZ250431525633QQcategoryZ79845QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m183QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%252BIA%26itu%3DIT%252BUA%252BPSS%252BUCC%252BCRS%252BIA%252BUCI%252BSI%252BUS-BWR%26otn%3D3%26ps%3D33

and use the JB3 cable to plug from this battery into your 09HR.

That's a 9v battery. It would probably fry the R-09HR.

But people use 9 volt batteries for their JB3s and those are not 9.0 volt devices, are they? Isn't that the reason why we use the special cable?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2009, 05:28:45 PM »
But people use 9 volt batteries for their JB3s*

* with a voltage regulator box

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 05:48:23 PM »
But people use 9 volt batteries for their JB3s*

* with a voltage regulator box

This is the heat shrinked device right?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2009, 08:17:39 AM »
This is the heat shrinked device right?

I've never seen one in that form factor (but that doesn't mean they don't exist).

Here is the type I am referring to: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,114639.0.html

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2009, 11:51:41 AM »
the confusion has ended!!! take a look....



This is the device I am talking about. It takes voltage from the 9 volt dvd battery and makes it acceptable to use with your JB3.
So I was wondering what would happen if you plugged this into the 09HR. Let me tell you what happened when I did it, it worked but I didn't leave it plugged in for very long, I simply wanted to know what would happen. It showed the AC icon down in the lower corner as if was charging. I also removed the batteries while it was plugged in and it remained powered on.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2009, 12:55:33 PM »
just wanted to give a shout out to beeco for this thread and his photos. i copied the whole setup (well, i used an off-the-shelf RS power cord with open adaptaplug ends) and now have a perfect power supply for my R-09. was a lifesaver at bonnaroo; i didn't have to worry about swapping or charging AAs the entire time. fits perfectly in one side of an old panasonic videocam bag i wasn't using...CA-9100 on the the other and R-09 in the center (with CA-11s stored in a little cloth bag in the center as well. fully contained small bag with festival-grade power.

this is truly a great community. i've learned so much and saved myself untold grief trying to figure out the best way to 'gear up' on a budget.

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2009, 01:54:32 PM »
Well, now that I've posted instructions for building an external battery pack like the one at the top of the post, I seem to be having trouble with it, as Rastasean already knows.  I'm wondering if any of you good folks who are using the same battery I used are having power issues or random R-09HR shutdown issues during recording.  I've recently had 2 occasions where the R-09HR just powered down while running the external PP-99 Lion battery IN SPITE OF HAVING AA's IN THE DECK.  Very odd. 

I'm also interested in what type of sled JD built, how it interfaced with the internal battery compartment, and how that's working out over the long run.  Any thoughts, JD?  Maybe some pics? 
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« Last Edit: November 04, 2009, 11:57:14 AM by beeco »
Now you see it:  ADK 51TL,  or MK4/41>KC5>CMC6, or AT4051b/4049a > Wendt X2 > R-09HR
Now you don't:   CA-14c  or DPA4061 > CA ST-9100 > R-09HR


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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2009, 12:29:38 AM »
I'm also interested in what type of sled JD built, how it interfaced with the internal battery compartment, and how that's working out over the long run.  Any thoughts, JD?  Maybe some pics? 

I have used the sled several times without issue. It will run the R09hr on it's brightest settings for 60+ hours on four D alkaline batteries with the battery meter on the unit fully functioning. For the $7 dollars or so that it cost to make, it is well worth it for festival recording. I'll put some pictures up later this week.

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