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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #420 on: September 28, 2019, 01:18:32 PM »
I ran my A10 with Baby Nbox for the first time Friday night. I had to switch over to line in as even level 1 on mic in was too hot.

Recording sounds decent under non-ideal conditions (o.k. sounding venue, low PA volume, lots of talkers, DIN configuration).
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #421 on: September 28, 2019, 02:38:27 PM »
I ran my A10 with Baby Nbox for the first time Friday night. I had to switch over to line in as even level 1 on mic in was too hot.

Recording sounds decent under non-ideal conditions (o.k. sounding venue, low PA volume, lots of talkers, DIN configuration).

Similar boat for my first experience. I was in a good sounding venue but not ideal location (far left, under overhang, chatty crowd) and had to run line in because mic in was overloading with ease.  Love the iOS app for controlling levels.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #422 on: October 01, 2019, 06:20:56 AM »
I’ve been using CA-14, CA-Ugly and Roland R-05 for years.
I got A10 to replace for R-05.

A10 max input LV is 30. I made some recording tests.
It seems LV+2 input level change makes about +3db recording sound level change.

I’ll make my default setting as follows.

setting 1:
Ugly: Full volume
A10: LINE in LV 5

setting 2:
Ugly:Half volume
A10: LINE in LV 10

I feel setting 2 may be preferable but it is not a logical thought.
Which setting do you recommend?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #423 on: October 02, 2019, 12:03:33 AM »
im leery running levels in single digits due to brickwalling but have never seen it in practice. LV10 is a safe bet. thats still a reasonably hot signal going in
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #424 on: October 02, 2019, 12:24:31 PM »
I've taped about 5 shows so far with my A10, with BabNbox and MK41's. All going line-in and levels varying from 16-20. All fairly loud shows and not anywhere near any stacks.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #425 on: October 04, 2019, 01:33:27 AM »
UGLY supports both battery-box and preamp.
It boosts 20db sound level at full volume.
It did well with R-05 LINE IN.

It seems A10 recording level is higher than R-05 through LINE IN.
Recording level is louder with UGLY full volume.
So I need to reduce output level of UGRY by -10db.

Otherwise, I may get another battery-box without preamp.
Are there any suggestions for me?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #426 on: October 04, 2019, 09:54:37 AM »
Is there a volume setting where there is no gain being added in nor reduction being taken out?  Dont we usually call this the unity setting?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #427 on: October 04, 2019, 10:27:55 AM »
Is there a volume setting where there is no gain being added in nor reduction being taken out?  Dont we usually call this the unity setting?

I tested this out using the tone generated on the Mixpre6 and it was around 3-4 from what I recall.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #428 on: October 04, 2019, 10:28:45 AM »
Has anyone actually used the internals? I'm curious about how usable they are (very low expectations).
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #429 on: October 11, 2019, 10:29:06 PM »
Has anyone actually used the internals? I'm curious about how usable they are (very low expectations).

The internal mic on the A10 is ridiculously bad.

I need to get a right angle 3.5mm adapter for this since the plug is on the side, but can someone clarify with me if there's a reason why I shouldn't get a 4 pole (TRRS) right angle adapter? Is it "backwards compatible" with 3 pole (TRS) devices that I plug into it? Because if it is, I feel like I might as well get the TRRS adapter as it's the same price.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #430 on: October 12, 2019, 07:21:54 AM »
Has anyone actually used the internals? I'm curious about how usable they are (very low expectations).

Like most of the other compact recorders in the same price bracket. Useable for some things, but probably not for loud concert taping. Only had mine for a moment before I returned it, but I did an acoustic event with the internals that sounded ok.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #431 on: October 20, 2019, 05:32:02 AM »
File date stamped with the start date and time, not the end date.

Can this be changed somehow?

Hungarian site emag.hu sells the unit for 150 EUR. We grabbed 2  :)

I’ve never seen a dig recorder that used anything but the start date and time for files.

All my other recorders (M10, PMD620, FR2LE) stamp the files with the actual finish time of the recording. A10 always stamp with the start time of the recording. I am not writting about the file names, I am writting about the file dates.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #432 on: October 20, 2019, 07:56:59 AM »
https://youtu.be/r6cVwF_5jiI
My first time out with a10

schoeps mk41v > nbobs > babynbox > sony  a-10 > 24/48 wav

Mine took a shit after one use! Completely dark won’t turn on
Real junk, buyer beware


That is pretty disconcerting news.  Were you able to get the A-10 to power back up?

We bought one in August for a friend. Yesterday he told me that the unit is dead. Can't turn on.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #433 on: October 21, 2019, 12:19:45 AM »
I need to get a right angle 3.5mm adapter for this since the plug is on the side, but can someone clarify with me if there's a reason why I shouldn't get a 4 pole (TRRS) right angle adapter? Is it "backwards compatible" with 3 pole (TRS) devices that I plug into it? Because if it is, I feel like I might as well get the TRRS adapter as it's the same price.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #434 on: October 21, 2019, 11:23:47 AM »

I need to get a right angle 3.5mm adapter for this since the plug is on the side, but can someone clarify with me if there's a reason why I shouldn't get a 4 pole (TRRS) right angle adapter? Is it "backwards compatible" with 3 pole (TRS) devices that I plug into it? Because if it is, I feel like I might as well get the TRRS adapter as it's the same price.
Considering the adapter costs only a few dollars, I cannot see one single reason to buy the wrong one.
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