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Title: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: Flynn on July 12, 2021, 03:32:19 PM
SSIA

Logic Pro doesn't handle 32 bit yet (seems way behind)
Reaper? (looks complicated)
Audacity 3.0?

A good rec would be great. Thanks
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: dyneq on July 12, 2021, 03:55:32 PM
I've been using Amadeus Pro for many years, and still find it very user-friendly and capable.

https://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: voltronic on July 12, 2021, 04:04:21 PM
Reaper isn't complicated unless you want it to be. It's easy to do simple things, and if you need to do serious work, it can do that as well. There are tons of great YouTube tutorials out there.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: morst on July 12, 2021, 04:20:43 PM
Audacity 3.0?
Any version of Audacity should do it (note that versions later than 3.0.2 track user behavior!)
But I've problems encoding 32-bit FLAC at times. (I usually aim for 24 so 32 is an error when I do it)
Do you have 32 Float or Signed?
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: Flynn on July 12, 2021, 04:48:59 PM
thanks for the thoughts.

going to start playing with reaper for now.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: DavidPuddy on July 12, 2021, 07:16:10 PM
I use Audacity, Izotope and Reaper for pretty much every show, unless it's only a two track recording. Then I cut out Audacity.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: Flynn on July 12, 2021, 08:10:26 PM
izotope looks like a rabbit hole..

what part of izotope do you use most?
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: voltronic on July 13, 2021, 07:19:18 AM
iZotope RX and Reaper are my two post apps that are used for every concert. RX is used for global level change / normalization, spectral denoise for reducing steady-state noise, and spectral repair or click removal for removing periodic noises. Note that you need to purchase the Standard version to get Spectral Denoise and Spectral repair, but it's well worth it.

I export a fresh set of processed files from RX, and then import to Reaper for all other editing.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: justme on July 15, 2021, 03:41:50 AM
The Fairlight audio module in Davinci Resolve handles 32-bit audio incl 32-bit float.
It’s free as well.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: voltronic on July 15, 2021, 08:27:35 AM
The Fairlight audio module in Davinci Resolve handles 32-bit audio incl 32-bit float.
It’s free as well.

DaVinci Resolve is an all-around amazing video editing app. That's what I use. The Fairlight module is cool, but I find a bit cumbersome compared to a dedicated DAW once you have more than a few tracks.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: mcfoster on June 22, 2022, 09:58:57 AM
Hey all, sorry to dig up an old thread, but I figured I would post here as to not create another one. I looked around a bit and was wondering, I just changed over to mac from pc. My normal old post routine was audacity>Cdwav. It appears to me that cd wav will not run on mac? I know my way around audacity pretty well at this point, so I think I would like to stick with it for the front, but is there anything as good as cd wav in the mac world for splitting tracks? Free ideally, or if I am going to spend some money, not a lot. Is there something that would take me start to finish in one app. Coming in at 32/48 at going out at flac 8? I see a lot of people use reaper? Can the whole deal be done right in there? If this has been discussed at length and you can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: jcable77 on June 22, 2022, 11:38:46 AM
https://www.rogueamoeba.com/fission/
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: opsopcopolis on June 22, 2022, 05:45:10 PM
Yeah, you can do everything in Reaper if you want to. Any processing, splitting, and will render FLAC
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: fotoralf.be on June 24, 2022, 03:29:48 PM
I've tested TwistedWave with a Zoom F6 file provided by someone on here and it works fine with 32 bit.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: checht on July 20, 2022, 11:30:39 AM
Long time Audacity user starting out on Reaper. Poly wav split question:
Looks like folks mostly do the split in another app then import. Is that b/c it's a pita in Reaper? The workflow I've found is to explode the poly wav, then run the following custom action:

Sws:select only tracks with selected items
xenakios/sws :select first of selected tracks
Xenakios/sws: implode items to takes and pan symmetrically
item :glue items

I'd assign a keyboard shortcut for it to make it simple to implement, but before I go that route thought I'd ask more experienced folks.

Opinions, please.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: GLouie on July 20, 2022, 12:22:39 PM
I am not sure of your workflow, nor familiar with SWS or xenakios, so this may not be relevent.

I suspect people (mainly MixPre users) use Waveagent to split their polywav because they don't know about Reaper's explode item, or aren't using Reaper. Also, Waveagent does not work with 32bit-float. I work 24 bit, and do both methods, but Reaper's explode item is quick and easy. It also appears to duplicate the audio data for each exploded track of the polywav, and in the case of Mac, seems to throw the files into my Documents folder. I move them to the root Reaper folder of my project, so everything is together when I copy the folder for archiving or working from another machine.

Once exploded, all of the polywav tracks are separate (subtracks?) and I mix like any multitrack project. If I recorded L/R mix in the polywav (1-2), I just mute or delete them as I usually don't need them in a remix.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: checht on July 20, 2022, 01:18:39 PM
Thanks!

My big takeaway is that maybe I don't have to make stereo tracks after all; I'm just used to them.

Explode, edit, mix, master may be the workflow to go with.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: GLouie on July 20, 2022, 03:01:18 PM
For the stuff I do on my MixPre10s, I don't bother to combine stereo tracks after exploding, I just pan them hard L/R and use Reaper's track grouping for that pair, and I only group volume, mute and solo. One reason to make it 1 stereo track would be to make it easier to do an automation envelope - half the work as doing 2 separate tracks.

Also, on my stuff, I just prefer to edit the stereo mixdown.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: tonyjuliano on September 28, 2022, 01:18:27 PM
Hey all, sorry to dig up an old thread, but I figured I would post here as to not create another one. I looked around a bit and was wondering, I just changed over to mac from pc. My normal old post routine was audacity>Cdwav. It appears to me that cd wav will not run on mac? I know my way around audacity pretty well at this point, so I think I would like to stick with it for the front, but is there anything as good as cd wav in the mac world for splitting tracks? Free ideally, or if I am going to spend some money, not a lot. Is there something that would take me start to finish in one app. Coming in at 32/48 at going out at flac 8? I see a lot of people use reaper? Can the whole deal be done right in there? If this has been discussed at length and you can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Thanks!

This…

https://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html

Amazing splitting and batch processing, among other things.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: justme on November 12, 2022, 09:06:17 PM
Apple come with an early gift.

Far down in the release notes for Logic 10.7.5 they reveal it…

Logic Pro now supports 32-bit floating point audio files natively.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: JiB97 on April 22, 2023, 07:39:53 PM
sort of off topic but i am having trouble finding an equivalent for doing just tracking splitting like I do with my home PC in CD Wave. I had done it in the past when traveling and using my mac laptop but I can't recall what program I used. However I remember being concerned about SBEs and in Audacity I could just never get it to work so I gave up.

does a simple program exist that works like this or should I just stick to PC or use my Mac and just dual boot login to Windows 10 to run CD Wave?
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: morst on April 22, 2023, 09:11:05 PM
Audacity works if you make it snap to nearest CDDA frame.
XAct can fix file sets.
Title: Re: Need an Editor for Mac that can handle 32 bit?
Post by: checht on April 23, 2023, 12:44:06 PM
M2 update:

I have a new M2 mini, entry level SOC 24GB RAM, 2TB SSD.
RX-9 music rebalance for a 2.25 hour 24/48 wav used to take about 6-7 hours on Intel mini, on M2 takes around 40 minutes.
Istat menus indicates process uses about 9GB memory and hammers the efficiency and performance cores.

Great upgrade, the 24GB is future-proofing, not really needed now. To speed up audio processing, I'd consider upgrading SOC next time.