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Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« on: July 03, 2022, 01:48:47 PM »
I have sung the praises of these screens many times here, having successfully insulated my CM3s from 40 mph gusts on more than one occasion.

The model you want to use with most pencil mics has been hard to find recently, but I wanted to report it is now back in stock at Adorama and also at Movo's online store.

https://www.movophoto.com/products/wst-premium-ballistic-nylon-windscreen
https://www.adorama.com/mvwst50.html
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Re: Movo WST50 Ballistic Nylon Windscreens - back in stock!
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 09:57:11 PM »
I needed a second set. Thanks for the heads up on these, Volt.

Adorama is now currently on back order.

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2022, 01:41:33 PM »
Thanks for the info pointing these windscreens out. Do you use the 3 cm length, or a longer version?

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2022, 04:18:01 PM »
Thanks for the info pointing these windscreens out. Do you use the 3 cm length, or a longer version?

The 3cm model called WST50 is perfect for the CM3/4.

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2022, 05:11:17 PM »
The 3cm model works great for actives as well.  I have the ws 50, wst 50, and ws g30.  Best bang for the buck for windscreens.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2022, 05:32:32 PM »
The 3cm model works great for actives as well.  I have the ws 50, wst 50, and ws g30.  Best bang for the buck for windscreens.




Does this fit properly with nbob actives on a SRS mount?

Are these better than Shure BAS ?

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2022, 05:36:52 PM »
The 3cm model works great for actives as well.  I have the ws 50, wst 50, and ws g30.  Best bang for the buck for windscreens.




Does this fit properly with nbob actives on a SRS mount?

Are these better than Shure BAS ?



They work great with Nbobs on a SRS bar or Kwon style bar!  I haven't used BAS I just hated carrying them around due to size.  For years I used the DPA screens with Windcutter furs over them.  The Movos grip the mic much better. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2022, 07:14:47 PM »
These things are fantastic and cheap!
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2022, 03:36:05 PM »
The 3cm model works great for actives as well. I have the ws 50, wst 50, and ws g30.  Best bang for the buck for windscreens.



Does the ws 50 provide same the wind protection as wst 50?  What is the difference?

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2022, 09:14:08 AM »
I think the wst 50 provides better protection, but using both in the field I doubt you would notice a difference between the two.  The ws g30 is a suppose to provide better protection than all the options, because it has more fur. 

The 3cm model works great for actives as well. I have the ws 50, wst 50, and ws g30.  Best bang for the buck for windscreens.



Does the ws 50 provide same the wind protection as wst 50?  What is the difference?
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2022, 10:23:21 AM »
Just picked up a pair of these. Very pleased with the price. My go to solution has been small foams and small dead rats for my actives. Problem with that is I was always hesitant to put the rats on and got caught a few times with high a gust that the small foams do nothing for. Hoping these are the ultimate solution without attenuating too much.

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2022, 08:12:58 PM »
So it was reported here: https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=200320.msg2381552#msg2381552

That these things pretty much suck. Anyone else have any experience in high winds? I hate carrying BAS to. I thought these were the perfect solution. Haven't had a chance to use mine yet. :shrug:

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2022, 08:26:41 PM »
So it was reported here: https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=200320.msg2381552#msg2381552

That these things pretty much suck. Anyone else have any experience in high winds? I hate carrying BAS to. I thought these were the perfect solution. Haven't had a chance to use mine yet. :shrug:


I can't recommend them unless my pair is faulty which doesn't seem to be the case.


I also just received the Movo ws-g30....i plan to try some sort of wind test using a fan tomoorow against the BAS,WST-50,WS-G30.

Will report back here.

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2022, 08:40:41 PM »
I have used mine in 40+ mph gusts before with my CM3s and they performed beautifully, so I'm quite surprised at beatkilla's bad experience.

beatkilla - One thing I noticed you mentioned in this reply to that Gov't Mule is that you had no space at the end of the caps. You typically need a couple cm space of "dead air" for windscreens of this type to work correctly. If you pull them out to allow for this space, does the rubber ring no longer go past the rear vents? If it's not covering, you might need the next size up.

jbell may have a point that hypers in heavy wind may not be the best choice, but then again pro ENG people use shotguns in heavy wind all the time. They usually have a full-out Rycote Blimp for those situations, however. Look at all the empty space around the capsule in one of those!
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2022, 10:59:53 AM »
This: https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=200475.0

was recorded using Line Audio OM1 & CM4s with Movo WST50 windscreens this past Friday. There were a couple of gusts, but no sustained wind. I felt the PA was pretty muddy, and (IMHO) the recording captures that.

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2022, 12:53:11 PM »
I have the WS-G30 and the WS-50 and I have to say the WS-G30 kept more wind out of my recording recently than the white fur version WS-50. Thought I was safe using them on omnis in high wind and was wrong, are the ballistic WST80 the most wind resistant?
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2022, 08:38:49 PM »
I can only speak to the WST (nylon cover; no fur) being very wind-resistant. The WS and WS-G each have a different type of fur over foam construction, and it's not clear from Movo's website which is supposed to be the best. The WS-G is much more expensive, for whatever reason.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2022, 11:15:38 PM »
According to their website, the WS-G is marketed as having a "rigid" foam, while the WS in the description says it's an "acoustic foam technology" they've implored. Probably time I get a couple pairs of the WST screens.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2022, 07:33:38 AM »
According to their website, the WS-G is marketed as having a "rigid" foam, while the WS in the description says it's an "acoustic foam technology" they've implored. Probably time I get a couple pairs of the WST screens.
The foam on the inside is like a BRILLO pad!! Not on my caps.  15 bucks each, that's y.  Look great though
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2022, 11:02:31 AM »
So it was reported here: https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=200320.msg2381552#msg2381552

That these things pretty much suck. Anyone else have any experience in high winds? I hate carrying BAS to. I thought these were the perfect solution. Haven't had a chance to use mine yet. :shrug:

I use them reguarly at Red Rocks, Dick's etc. No issues at all.
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2022, 12:11:15 AM »
Another very positive vote for the WST50 screens! I have the 3cm version and used them outside several occasions with Rode TF-5 and also my CCM4 and not an issue. Haven't measured the gap in front of the caps yet, but I insert them enough to just cover the rear vents. Certainly worth the purchase.

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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2022, 10:32:51 AM »
So it was reported here: https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=200320.msg2381552#msg2381552

That these things pretty much suck. Anyone else have any experience in high winds? I hate carrying BAS to. I thought these were the perfect solution. Haven't had a chance to use mine yet. :shrug:

I use them reguarly at Red Rocks, Dick's etc. No issues at all.
Use these instead of the black DPA ones that come with the set and they are so much better. Taken up to 40MPH and no wind on mics...simply amazing! You need to make sure the inner side of the windscreen is pulled out toward the outside to make sure no wind gets through the area between mic and wind screen toughing each other.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2022, 04:04:56 PM »
Another very positive vote for the WST50 screens! I have the 3cm version and used them outside several occasions with Rode TF-5 and also my CCM4 and not an issue. Haven't measured the gap in front of the caps yet, but I insert them enough to just cover the rear vents. Certainly worth the purchase.

This is the way I understood the proper use of this screen, or any screen that has a rubber base to grip the cap or coupler or mic body. Make sure the sure all vents are covered and you have a tight seal around the bottom, meaning do not push the cap or coupler or whatever all the way in. That can allow airflow thru the bottom. Interesting point about the gap inside. I'm using mine with nBobs, naiants or LC3's and I know there is a small gap between the tip of the cap and the inside of the screen. Not as much of one with the Naiant couplers and AKG CK caps.

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2022, 05:17:00 PM »
Confirming what ts posted above, insert the microphone far enough that any vents are fully inside the windscreen and are neither sticking out the back making them partly exposed, nor blocked internally by the rubber cuff itself.  The cuff seal needs to be air-tight around the microphone in a position behind any vents.

At the front end of the windscreen, there should be some airspace left at the front end.  Wind protection will be reduced if the mic is shoved all the way in until it stops, leaving no internal air gap.  This needs to be done by feel.  With the big ass Shure you can only insert the mic so far, with the Movos you can over-insert too far.

Here is an example of internal depth on a couple larger Movos in comparison to BAS:

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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2022, 05:25:21 PM »
The foam on the inside is like a BRILLO pad!! Not on my caps.  15 bucks each, that's y.  Look great though

It uses the same expanded large-pore flexible plastic foam inside as the Shure, and will not scratch the finish on the mics.  It's a material used for filters and is actually more like a sponge, with pores too large and open to retain water.  It only resembles a scouring pad due to the large pore size.

Although soft and compliant, the rubber cuff is more likely to cause a scratch due to it's grabbing tightly, but probably only if the surface is dirty or a bit of grit gets stuck in there.
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2022, 05:33:30 PM »
Movo sizing: The number after WST indicates the approximate internal depth in millimeters, but the mic should be inserted somewhat less far to provide some dead air space at the end.

If measuring actual internal depth, the size closest to the Shure A81WS (AKA big ass Shure) would be the WST60 or WST70.  But in regards to external dimension, and for most effective wind protection, the closest comparison would be WST80 as pictured above, with the mic inserted to same depth as if using the Shure.

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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2022, 08:21:23 PM »
The foam on the inside is like a BRILLO pad!! Not on my caps.  15 bucks each, that's y.  Look great though

It uses the same expanded large-pore flexible plastic foam inside as the Shure, and will not scratch the finish on the mics.  It's a material used for filters and is actually more like a sponge, with pores too large and open to retain water.  It only resembles a scouring pad due to the large pore size.

Although soft and compliant, the rubber cuff is more likely to cause a scratch due to it's grabbing tightly, but probably only if the surface is dirty or a bit of grit gets stuck in there.

The other thing about that kind of plastic foam found inside the Movo's (and the BAS, apparently) is that it is far less likely to degrade over time, and have tiny crumbled pieces attach to your mic diaphragm. That is a real concern with the type of foam found in most windscreens (and what's on the outside of the BAS).
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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2022, 10:55:00 AM »
The foam on the inside is like a BRILLO pad!! Not on my caps.  15 bucks each, that's y.  Look great though

It uses the same expanded large-pore flexible plastic foam inside as the Shure, and will not scratch the finish on the mics.  It's a material used for filters and is actually more like a sponge, with pores too large and open to retain water.  It only resembles a scouring pad due to the large pore size.

Although soft and compliant, the rubber cuff is more likely to cause a scratch due to it's grabbing tightly, but probably only if the surface is dirty or a bit of grit gets stuck in there.

The other thing about that kind of plastic foam found inside the Movo's (and the BAS, apparently) is that it is far less likely to degrade over time, and have tiny crumbled pieces attach to your mic diaphragm. That is a real concern with the type of foam found in most windscreens (and what's on the outside of the BAS).

I hope this is not too off topic.

I recently found, in a moving box forgotten far from home since the early 90's, three samples of "microphone" foam in two mic boxes... In one box was an AKG D12 on top of a grey foam pad that appeared to be intact, in the other was a Beyerdynamic M201 N in a pile of disintegrated black foam, with a black foam windscreen, in apparent good condition.

The protective foam of the M201 was of course unusable, sticky, in fine particles adhering everywhere including on the body of the microphone. But, for the M201's windscreen and the D12's protective foam, after a passage in soapy water, a rinse and a drying outside, in the shade, they were in perfect condition, some thirty years later...
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I can't formally identify the foam windscreen of the M201. It is not the specific Beyerdynamic model, the WS101, longer, to cover the vents on the body of the mic (it is a hypercardioid). Maybe a Schoeps (or a DPA?) but the back of this windscreen is cut at right angles and not "rounded".

Both microphones work well.

N.B.: The M201 still had its individual frequency response curve in the box, i.e. the paper strip directly from the B&K meter, as was the custom at the time... Matching number, of course!  ;)

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