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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2007, 12:13:39 PM »
A couple of years ago it was somewhat difficult to get one.
Recently with so many people moving to the all in ones they appear to be popping up more often.

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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2007, 10:47:24 PM »
If it was known what model transformers are in the 148s it would be possible to build very similar units...but we don't know and that's the way Doug wants it and so it remains.
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2007, 10:58:24 PM »
If it was known what model transformers are in the 148s it would be possible to build very similar units...but we don't know and that's the way Doug wants it and so it remains.

I thought they were Jensens.  At least that is what I read from an old post linked to dat heads and to oades old forum.  I thought the big bonus to the 148 was the design on the power supply, not the actual pre since it gets the 20db of fixed gain from the transformers.

found an old thread.  Jensens, point to point wiring, no dc to dc voltage step up.  http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,52730.0.html
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2007, 05:24:08 PM »


Check out some schoeps >M-248 recordings.



DING DING DING!!!!!!
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mk41>148 is even better

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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2007, 06:00:21 PM »


Check out some schoeps >M-248 recordings.



DING DING DING!!!!!!
mk4>248 is the shit.
mk41>148 is even better


He did design the box while using Schoeps microphones so this makes a lot of sense.

And... in general hypers can stand a little warming while the low end rich cards (Schoeps, AKG, Neumann 140) find some percieved balance with a slightly brighter box.

Of course me... I'll take warmth on warmth please, wrap me up in a sonic blanket and let me rest my bones for a spell.
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2007, 06:07:01 PM »
140>248 wasn't right to my ears.
140>148 would be much better.

schoeps are a different best though.  they are so thick in the middle, that the 248...which leans towards the transparent / detailed side of things (vs the 148), really works best.
especially w/the cmc6

the original m118 was "voiced" with cmc5, or earlier.  which to my ears..are a bit exaggerated around 250Hz and the 148 warms the shit right out of them, yielding such gems as those smokin' 1985 GD shows on archive.

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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2007, 06:32:26 PM »
140>248 wasn't right to my ears.
140>148 would be much better.

schoeps are a different best though.  they are so thick in the middle, that the 248...which leans towards the transparent / detailed side of things (vs the 148), really works best.
especially w/the cmc6

the original m118 was "voiced" with cmc5, or earlier.  which to my ears..are a bit exaggerated around 250Hz and the 148 warms the shit right out of them, yielding such gems as those smokin' 1985 GD shows on archive.



Of course each mic has it's own signature and I'm dealing with generalities.  Personally I'll take the 148 over the 248 for most any microphone for recording shows.  In fact I don't think I ever recommended the 248 for Schoeps mics in general unless that person told me he had a fondness for the treble knob.

It's fun seeing how other people group gear or place labels on things. What sounds hard, sterile, or overly accurate in my mind can be described as low end rich or warm by others.  Many times I find myself responding to a post here only to hit the delete button simply because another opinion only furthers the conversation, not necessarily getting any closer to a truth for another.  In reality the best that can be accomplished is that folks begin to find trends with which they can begin to discern how another individual hears things based on his/her classifications combined with personal experience.  Then you can decide whether you're in sync with that and attempt to get and idea of how it's going to sound to you based on those ideas.

As far as these two boxes go... the Portico is one of the few new boxes being used in this scene which has really peaked my curiosity, such great detail with a bit of warmth while remaining extremely open, and I'm already big fan of the 148.
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2007, 06:54:03 PM »
I'd really like to run one for a while.

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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2017, 08:44:53 AM »
http://nickspicks.com/mp3/sw2008-06-22track25.flac

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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2022, 02:13:46 PM »
so i know this is an old thread - i’ll repost as a new thought if no replies -

i just snagged one of these, and knew the rack wars would make it tough to carry around in my orca bags. didn’t realize how deep this sucker is, and regardless of how it sounds, it’s as useful to me at the moment as a boat anchor around my neck. how do you all transport/bag it?

i haven’t seen a bag that tolerates rack gear well that’s less than 5-7 hundred bucks, and i can afford it, but don’t see a reason to buy a 5th gear bag for this monster, and am thinking of dumping it instead. really bummed with it.
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mic bodies/pwr supplies cmc1L x 4, vst62iu
actives, schoeps specialty cables: ak2Lsu x 6, aksu2ta3 x 6 , aksu2u x 6, 5m nbobs actives (schoeps version), kc5 (modified) with binder plug for nbox, kcy x 2, ks5Lu x 10, k5Lta3 x 7


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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2022, 05:54:50 PM »
so i know this is an old thread - i’ll repost as a new thought if no replies -

i just snagged one of these, and knew the rack wars would make it tough to carry around in my orca bags. didn’t realize how deep this sucker is, and regardless of how it sounds, it’s as useful to me at the moment as a boat anchor around my neck. how do you all transport/bag it?

i haven’t seen a bag that tolerates rack gear well that’s less than 5-7 hundred bucks, and i can afford it, but don’t see a reason to buy a 5th gear bag for this monster, and am thinking of dumping it instead. really bummed with it.

Looks like someone ran this beast last year. Maybe you can get his contact info?

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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2022, 09:57:25 PM »

It only pokes out the top of a Sonicase a little bit. Old school. You can cut off the rack ears if they are in the way.
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2022, 04:04:04 PM »
yeah - i thought about butchering the face to remove the rack ears, but the depth (13+" with cables/knobs considered) is what's really getting to me....

I'm a touch ocd as well, and the sticking out the top part is something that is sorta deal breaking :(
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mic bodies/pwr supplies cmc1L x 4, vst62iu
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Re: Oade 148 Vs Neve 5012
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2022, 12:25:20 PM »
I thought Neve offered a faceplate without the ears
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