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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2022, 06:37:16 PM »
Awesome. Yeah, I don't tape festivals. Just looking to tape maybe an opening band, and then two maybe three set shows, max.  Charge overnight and tape again the next night kind of deal.  Not looking to go all day.  Will the Talentcell get me through what I'm looking for?  Thank you!

You could get the Talentcell battery I linked!  It is smaller and lighter.  You aren't going to get as long of run times with 6 channels of p48, but a solid battery for normal shows. I have one as a backup.  I've never used the battery you linked, but it should work. 

I am testing out a run of all 6 channels with the MAXOAK battery.   35 mins in so far at 32bit float / 48 and the battery has not flintched.  Are there any out there that aren't so big and heavy, but still have great run times?  Thanks again for the tip!!!

What about this one?   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P87JTVT


I don't think you would get more that 2 hours with the AA sled with more than 2 channels.  Order a Hirose > M tip battery cable from Ted.  Then you can buy a talent cell or Max Oak battery depending on your powering needs. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016BJCRUO?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_ypp_rep_k0_1_11&amp&crid=3N688WASQGBPN&amp&sprefix=talentcell+

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-Charger-External/dp/B00YP823NA/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1AWI6L9MVOV3L&keywords=maxoak+power+bank&qid=1657408524&s=electronics&sprefix=Max+Oak+po%2Celectronics%2C78&sr=1-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840

You can only power it with the Hirose connector and/or battery sled.  It doesn't power with the usbc like the Mixpre 3/6.  IMO the hirose is a much better option and more secure.

I am sure it's out there but I cannot find the MixPre 10 II power options thread.  Can someone please direct me there? My MP10 will only power up with the wall plug. I thought it powered up by USB-C?  Thank you!

How long will the battery sled give me in the field running 6 channels?  Any idea?  and is there a portable Hirose battery option?  Thanks!
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2022, 06:47:13 PM »
Yeah, that will work and use the same M tip as the Max oak. 

Awesome. Yeah, I don't tape festivals. Just looking to tape maybe an opening band, and then two maybe three set shows, max.  Charge overnight and tape again the next night kind of deal.  Not looking to go all day.  Will the Talentcell get me through what I'm looking for?  Thank you!

You could get the Talentcell battery I linked!  It is smaller and lighter.  You aren't going to get as long of run times with 6 channels of p48, but a solid battery for normal shows. I have one as a backup.  I've never used the battery you linked, but it should work. 

I am testing out a run of all 6 channels with the MAXOAK battery.   35 mins in so far at 32bit float / 48 and the battery has not flintched.  Are there any out there that aren't so big and heavy, but still have great run times?  Thanks again for the tip!!!

What about this one?   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P87JTVT


I don't think you would get more that 2 hours with the AA sled with more than 2 channels.  Order a Hirose > M tip battery cable from Ted.  Then you can buy a talent cell or Max Oak battery depending on your powering needs. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016BJCRUO?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_ypp_rep_k0_1_11&amp&crid=3N688WASQGBPN&amp&sprefix=talentcell+

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-Charger-External/dp/B00YP823NA/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1AWI6L9MVOV3L&keywords=maxoak+power+bank&qid=1657408524&s=electronics&sprefix=Max+Oak+po%2Celectronics%2C78&sr=1-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840

You can only power it with the Hirose connector and/or battery sled.  It doesn't power with the usbc like the Mixpre 3/6.  IMO the hirose is a much better option and more secure.

I am sure it's out there but I cannot find the MixPre 10 II power options thread.  Can someone please direct me there? My MP10 will only power up with the wall plug. I thought it powered up by USB-C?  Thank you!

How long will the battery sled give me in the field running 6 channels?  Any idea?  and is there a portable Hirose battery option?  Thanks!
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2022, 03:38:41 PM »
Just a heads up, I just did a test run and got around 6 hours, running 6 channels, using this cable and a J-Go Tanker Power Bank via USB-C > Hirose.

amazon.com/gp/product/B08TTJ3C1X

https://jgotech.com/products/the-tanker-26800mah-45w-pd-portable-laptop-and-phone-charger
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2023, 02:40:50 PM »
For a MixPre-10 II, doesn't the Sound Devices MX-HIROSE  [ https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552856-REG/sound_devices_mx_hirose_hirose_dc_input_sled.html ] require 10-20V?
Some of the batteries being suggested run at 9v.

Is there a RAV Power battery that is high capacity AND you can set the voltage? I would prefer a battery running the exact voltage you want...

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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2023, 03:16:23 PM »
The Mixpre 10 II has a built in Hirose so you don't need the sled you linked.  The Max Oak and Talent cell batteries I suggested both have 12v outputs.

For a MixPre-10 II, doesn't the Sound Devices MX-HIROSE  [ https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552856-REG/sound_devices_mx_hirose_hirose_dc_input_sled.html ] require 10-20V?
Some of the batteries being suggested run at 9v.

Is there a RAV Power battery that is high capacity AND you can set the voltage? I would prefer a battery running the exact voltage you want...
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2023, 03:56:48 AM »
The Mixpre 10 II has a built in Hirose so you don't need the sled you linked.  The Max Oak and Talent cell batteries I suggested both have 12v outputs.

^^ Beware that some users have reported that the builtin Hirose connector on the MP10 is more fragile (mainly because it sticks out oddly when plugged to a hirose plug) than a sled with hirose. I have an extra hirose sled that someone made...if you solder at all, and have a sled you're not using, then it's easy to make a regular sled into a hirose sled.

That said, I would personally run the builtin hirose connector, PLUS some AA batteries as backup. That's one of the great things about the mixpre series is that you can always have a backup power source.
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2023, 04:00:14 PM »
^^ Beware that some users have reported that the builtin Hirose connector on the MP10 is more fragile (mainly because it sticks out oddly when plugged to a hirose plug) than a sled with hirose. I have an extra hirose sled that someone made...if you solder at all, and have a sled you're not using, then it's easy to make a regular sled into a hirose sled.

That Hirose connector was a major factor in me sending mine back and sticking with the MixPre6. I found it very fiddly, and was afraid it would be the first thing to go. I’ll just have to use two decks and live without the 2 extra ISOs.
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2023, 04:36:10 PM »
I've had my 10 for a few years and haven't had an issue with the Hirose!
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2023, 10:38:16 PM »
That’s good to hear as I really liked having 8 ISOs. I’m just wary having had bad luck with various ports over the years not supporting sufficient wear and tear. It would suck to have that go and render the device useless, at that price point.
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2023, 02:20:19 AM »
We have two 722s since they were new, and a MixPre10T and 10-II and have never had a problem with the Hirose connector, other than one factory adapter for a 722 with a poor wire prep job at the strain relief.

Replacing a Hirose in a MixPre10 would be trivial if you wanted to DIY and could find the part. It does stick out to the side and you cannot sit the 10 on it's back with the stock sled, but you would really have to abuse it to break it IMO.

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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2023, 09:12:53 PM »
Replacing a Hirose in a MixPre10 would be trivial if you wanted to DIY and could find the part.

^^ Cool pic of the MixPre guts. Is the hirose epoxied in or just screwed on?  It's actually great to know this is replaceable. Anyone know where to find the right hirose connector? I know of a MP-10 in need of one...

Edit: maybe its a Hirose HR10A-7R-4S? Or one of the Hirose parts below? They seem to make a ton of variations, many of which are obsolete and unavailable...

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/circular-connectors/circular-connector-assemblies/436?s=N4IgjCBcoEwBxVAYygMwIYBsDOBTANCAPZQDaIAzAJwUAMdIAuoQA4AuUIAymwE4CWAOwDmIAL6E4CaCBSQMOAsTIgY9MADYA7E1YdI3PkNESQAVjhVEstFjyESkchGYh2nHgJHjCAWggycgr2yk6qGkxiUUA
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2023, 01:54:20 PM »
The Hirose just looked held in by the big nut. I don't know what's available to buy, that is a problem. SD must be able to get them, or they have a ton of NOS. Seems odd that they and others would continue to use the Hirose if unavailable.

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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2023, 10:50:20 AM »
This is definitely still available and a common part from electronic supply houses. Hirose #HR10A-7R-4S.

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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2023, 12:49:36 AM »
I've been running my MixPre-10T with one of these Krisdonia LiPos (via custom hirose cable), and it's been a solid workhorse! Both, slip perfectly into a Sachtler SN607 (small) Lightweight Audio Bag. BTW, I also always use the provided 8AA sled with IKEA brand LADDA rechargeables, as a backup...

   https://www.amazon.com/Krisdonia-50000mAh-Portable-Battery-Charger/dp/B074N1B15F/ref=sr_1_3?tag=at88-20&geniuslink=true&th=1

Their smaller capacity model is TSA ok, so if you ever fly with your gear, opt for the smaller beast:

   https://www.amazon.com/Krisdonia-Portable-TSA-Approved-25000mAh-External/dp/B076GYGR6M?th=1

Highly recommend! I've used Anker and RAVPower products in the past, and these are just as reliable
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Re: MixPre 10 II Power Options???
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2023, 12:33:04 AM »
Anyone try one of these with d-tap to hirose?  There are several options available and all seem smaller and lighter than the Krisdonia batteries. 
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