Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - ORTF and DINa w/ Rycote INV-7 HG MKIII  (Read 5904 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Today I received the Shapeways DINa and ORTF mounts.

EDIT: The ORTF does not fit in the Rycote InVision INV-7 HG MKIII mount. Has anyone ever ran into this before? If so, what was the fix seeing as how Shapeways are custom and made to order.  As it is now, I'm stuck with a mount I can't use....

The DINa fits fine...though snug and tight.

TIA

~Bryan
« Last Edit: February 21, 2024, 08:49:32 AM by TaperBryan »
09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline beatkilla

  • Trade Count: (70)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 2100
  • Gender: Male
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2024, 04:18:50 PM »
I think most SRS mounts are designed for Shure a53.

All 5 of mine are.

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2024, 04:27:36 PM »
I think most SRS mounts are designed for Shure a53.

All 5 of mine are.

That sure would have been nice to know before buying. LOL

EDIT: Not sure I'll buy a Shure a53 mount just to run ORTF when I've already spent $$ on the Rycote that everyone seemed to recommend/suggest.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2024, 08:39:29 AM by TaperBryan »
09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline DavidPuddy

  • Trade Count: (18)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1814
  • If it's too loud, turn it down.
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2024, 05:23:20 PM »
All of the Shapeways mounts I've ever bought (probably 10 at this point) have fit in the Rycote mounts. Which ones did you buy OP?
Mics: mk4v/mk41v/mk22 > CMC1L/Nbobs, MKE2
Preamps: Nbox Platinum ABS, Baby Nbox
Recorders: Mixpre-6 ii, PCM-A10

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2024, 05:39:44 PM »
All of the Shapeways mounts I've ever bought (probably 10 at this point) have fit in the Rycote mounts. Which ones did you buy OP?

I bought the AKG Naiant DINa and ORTF

The Rycote InVision INV-7 HG MKIII shock mount
09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline BlueSky71

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 129
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2024, 06:23:52 PM »
I am wondering if you may be too concerned about getting your mount into the lyres. Those pieces are pretty resilient. The problem with the A53 mounts is getting the tension right so as to not slip, more of an issue with full bodied mics. Can you confirm that the center bar is 20mm/or just over 3/4"o.d. so it should go in and stay there till you take it out. Maybe I am missing something?

Edit, I was thinking of the INV 6 style mount when writing this, and see that you have the 7 with a longer clamp style spot for the bar

From the SRS website.

Custom designed microphone mounts for recording engineers and concert tapers. These mounts are printed on industrial 3D printers from strong and flexible nylon plastic. They are extremely lightweight, but are more than sturdy enough to support a pair of pencil-type condenser microphones.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Unless otherwise indicated, the mounts you see in this shop are designed to be used with a 20mm shock mount such as the Shure A53M, or a conventional 20mm microphone clip. Newer mounts are being designed to accommodate the Rycote INV-6 and INV-7 Lyre suspension

« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 08:09:41 PM by BlueSky71 »

Offline vanark

  • TDS
  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (29)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *
  • Posts: 8545
  • If you ain't right, you better get right!
    • The Mudboy Grotto - North Mississippi Allstar fan site
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2024, 07:14:16 PM »
Can you please give more details to "does not fit in the Rycote InVision INV-7 HG MKIII mount"?

I have a Gefell nbob active DINa mount and I use the custom SRS base with standalone Rycote lyres. The DINa and ORTF mounts are a bit too short to fit in a full size standard Rycote mount. 2nd photo is the same mount in a standard mount. It might still work, but the ORTF is even shorter and would definitely not work.
If you have a problem relating to the Live Music Archive (http://www.archive.org/details/etree) please send an e-mail to us admins at LMA(AT)archive(DOT)org or post in the LMA thread here and we'll get on it.

Link to LMA Recordings

Link to Team Dirty South Recordings on the LMA

Mics: Microtech Gefell M21 (with Nbob actives) | Church Audio CA-11 (cards) (with CA UBB)
Pres: babynbox
Recorders: Tascam DR-60D | Tascam DR-40 | Sony PCM-A10 | Edirol R-4

Offline HealthCov Chris

  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 552
  • Gender: Male
    • InsideOut Recording & Promotions
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2024, 10:16:50 PM »
I use the Shure mount for single SRS pairs because it fits well, holds the weight no problem, and is lower profile in the air than the Rycote.  I use the Rycote for my custom dual mounts that hold 4 mics.
LMA: https://archive.org/details/@corfit
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/insideoutrecording
Mics: AKG ck61/ck63 (nBob actives, Naiant PFA) | AKG 568 | CA-14 omni | Studio Projects B3
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6 | Zoom F3 | Roland R-07
Camera: GoPro Hero 4 Silver

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2024, 08:37:59 AM »
I am wondering if you may be too concerned about getting your mount into the lyres. Those pieces are pretty resilient. The problem with the A53 mounts is getting the tension right so as to not slip, more of an issue with full bodied mics. Can you confirm that the center bar is 20mm/or just over 3/4"o.d. so it should go in and stay there till you take it out. Maybe I am missing something?

Edit, I was thinking of the INV 6 style mount when writing this, and see that you have the 7 with a longer clamp style spot for the bar

From the SRS website.

Custom designed microphone mounts for recording engineers and concert tapers. These mounts are printed on industrial 3D printers from strong and flexible nylon plastic. They are extremely lightweight, but are more than sturdy enough to support a pair of pencil-type condenser microphones.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Unless otherwise indicated, the mounts you see in this shop are designed to be used with a 20mm shock mount such as the Shure A53M, or a conventional 20mm microphone clip. Newer mounts are being designed to accommodate the Rycote INV-6 and INV-7 Lyre suspension


IMHO - The note about the newer mounts being designed to accommodate the Rycote INV-6 and INV-7 Lyre should be plastered/added to the individual product pages. The links below for the ORTF and DINa I ordered says nothing of the sort.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/F9HPLXX29/ortf-akg-naiant

https://www.shapeways.com/product/68MNPBX6Q/dina-akg-naiant



09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2024, 08:48:19 AM »
Attached are some pics. I edited my original post as I thought it was the DINa mount that did not work. Rather, the DINa fits and the ORTF does not

09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Re: Shapeways mounts for AKG Naiant/pfa - DINa
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2024, 10:58:08 AM »
Can you please give more details to "does not fit in the Rycote InVision INV-7 HG MKIII mount"?

I have a Gefell nbob active DINa mount and I use the custom SRS base with standalone Rycote lyres. The DINa and ORTF mounts are a bit too short to fit in a full size standard Rycote mount. 2nd photo is the same mount in a standard mount. It might still work, but the ORTF is even shorter and would definitely not work.

Rory - What is the speed adapter you have under the Rycote? I have the little 5/8 adapter but would prefer the speed adapter as they are MUCH easier. When those little 5/8 adapters get too tight on the stand, they can be a bear to untighten....
09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline vanark

  • TDS
  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (29)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *
  • Posts: 8545
  • If you ain't right, you better get right!
    • The Mudboy Grotto - North Mississippi Allstar fan site
Yes, the ORTF is going to be too short for the full size mount. Given everything I know now, I might consider going the Shure A53M route rather than the custom SRS base with individual lyres, although that works too.

custom base (looks different than the version I purchased 5 years ago):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134448083664

rapid adapter (many different manufacturers of this):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/824403-REG/Impact_ca_102_Rapid_Baby_to_3_8.html
https://www.amazon.com/Kupo-Inches-Receiver-Inches-16-KG004611/dp/B0082N9EPE/
If you have a problem relating to the Live Music Archive (http://www.archive.org/details/etree) please send an e-mail to us admins at LMA(AT)archive(DOT)org or post in the LMA thread here and we'll get on it.

Link to LMA Recordings

Link to Team Dirty South Recordings on the LMA

Mics: Microtech Gefell M21 (with Nbob actives) | Church Audio CA-11 (cards) (with CA UBB)
Pres: babynbox
Recorders: Tascam DR-60D | Tascam DR-40 | Sony PCM-A10 | Edirol R-4

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Yes, the ORTF is going to be too short for the full size mount. Given everything I know now, I might consider going the Shure A53M route rather than the custom SRS base with individual lyres, although that works too.

custom base (looks different than the version I purchased 5 years ago):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134448083664

rapid adapter (many different manufacturers of this):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/824403-REG/Impact_ca_102_Rapid_Baby_to_3_8.html
https://www.amazon.com/Kupo-Inches-Receiver-Inches-16-KG004611/dp/B0082N9EPE/

Thanks!

The custom base is the same one I have. I replaced the stock Rycote INV-7 base with the RB-A custom base.

That adapter from B&H looks clutch!

Also, I gave in and found an unused Shure a53m mount on ebay for 1/2 the price of a new one. So, it's shipped and in transit to me....
09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

Offline jbell

  • TDS
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 4576
  • Gender: Male
  • Spreadicated
Just get a DIN bar and shelve the ORTF! 
Mics: DPA ST4011ER & 4018ER | Neumann kk 184 (matched)> Nbob/PFA
Preamps: DPA MMA 6000 | Audioroot Femto
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre-10 II | Sony PCM A10

-20        -12         -6        TDS   (32/48)     
]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]][}   
]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]][} 
__________________________
|Record|  Runtime: 4:19.99  {|||] 75%

Offline TaperBryan

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3930
  • Gender: Male
  • "Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time"
Just get a DIN bar and shelve the ORTF!

...or SELL the ORTF and fund the DIN. 

I made a DIY mount using one of the small microphone stand/base adapters and two of the Audix mic clips I used with my T-Bar. I'm not buying a DIN at this point as the DIY should work just fine and WAY less expensive!
09/23/2020 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > NAIANT/pfa > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

03/22/19 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod) and/or Tascam DR-70D

12/17/11 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > EAA PSP-2 and/or Lunatec V3 > Marantz PMD-661 (Oade Bros. Warm Mod)

02/07/07 rig update: AKG c480b(ck61/62/63) > Canare StarQuad mic cables > Lunatec V3 and/or EAA-PSP2 > ODL-276 > Nomad JB3 and/or Sony TCD-D8 DAT

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.07 seconds with 40 queries.
© 2002-2024 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF