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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: animuselanvital on April 08, 2009, 10:39:24 AM
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Hey everyone,
I just bought my first stereo pair mics recently. Actually they haven't even arrived yet! I need to buy a stereo/dual mic bar so that I can use them for stereo recording. My question is: Are there any suggestions as to which one would be best to purchase? I am looking for a good one that is flexible enough to support many stereo configurations, possibly even allow for some experimentation. Any suggestions will be helpful. I have googled many times trying to find some options but all of what I saw contained zero user reviews and most of what I saw just looked either hard to work with (ie Onstage MY700) or bad quality. The one that looked most flexible and easy to use was the K&M mic bar (http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/KM-Microphone-Bar-Dual-Mic-Holder?sku=450488&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=73933361)
Are these the only options out there? What is decent yet flexible? I really have no idea! ???
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I actually have/use that K&M bar and it works perfectly for my needs (the model number is either the 23550 or 450488 depending on where you get it). Simple to use and the length/spacing is just right for me. As an added bonus, when I bought mine at B&H Photo, it came with a riser/adapter (not shown in the picture or mentioned in the description) that normally costs a couple of bucks if you buy it separately; ideal if you happen to run X-Y coincident. Or you can just unscrew one of the 5/8" screws and put it in the bar the other way (upside-down?) to run coincident.
The first bar I bought was the AKG/K&M KM235/1 which has two arms that swivel. I believe Moke mentioned that one before he had his posts deleted. Built just as well as the 23550 and really solid, but I personally found myself futzing around a lot with those arms to get my mic placement how I needed it. In comparison, the 23550 is much simpler for me to set up and deal with. Another issue I had was that the nuts holding the arms on the KM235/1 would gradually loosen a bit and my setup would sometimes move after I had gotten it "just right". But, as they say, YMMV.
Another bar that seems to have a lot of fans on this board is the Vark bar. I've personally never used one but quite a few people swear by them. That's about as far as my mic bar knowledge goes, I can't even begin to get into the custom stuff. Good luck!
K&M 23550: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534727-REG/K_M_23550_500_55_23550_Adjustable_Microphone_Bar.html)
AKG KM235/1: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html)
Vark bar: http://www.posthorn.com/Macvk_4.html (http://www.posthorn.com/Macvk_4.html)
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Hey thanks for all the info, I ended up purchasing the K&M mic bar and so far it seems like a good choice. Now I just need to dig up my old protractor from school! Thanks again.
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After using the K+M bars for years - I now use the new Grace SpaceBar (http://www.gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar.html) - a *lot* more expensive than the K+M, but superbly engineered and with distance and angles marked in both planes for very fast, easy and repeatable set-up.
(http://www.gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/images/sb30_1.jpg)
This is the short one - there is also a long one. I have both and can use 4 mounts on the long one for ORTF with omnni outriggers.
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After using the K+M bars for years - I now use the new Grace SpaceBar (http://www.gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar.html) - a *lot* more expensive than the K+M, but superbly engineered and with distance and angles marked in both planes for very fast, easy and repeatable set-up.
(http://www.gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/images/sb30_1.jpg)
This is the short one - there is also a long one. I have both and can use 4 mounts on the long one for ORTF with omnni outriggers.
Holy cow! That is quite an amazing contraption. Completely gets rid of the need of a protractor! Will likely get one someday. . . but today is not that day unfortunately :( May try to imitate it with my own markings via some sort of white pen and an excellent ruler. . .
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Holy cow! That is quite an amazing contraption. Completely gets rid of the need of a protractor! [...] May try to imitate it with my own markings via some sort of white pen and an excellent ruler. . .
QFT!
$300 though?? Wowzers, they sure are making you pay for every centimeter of coolness! I want to see someone here fab. up a bunch and sell them for a reasonable, friendly price
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I use a tape measure and protractor for distance and angles. That Grace bar is absolute overkill IMHO. YMMV.
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That Grace bar is absolute overkill IMHO.
But it's lovely. ;D
Actually, it's a similar price to the quality bars from people like DPA and Gefell, so it's not really OTT - only when you compare it to the K&M at 1/20th of the price. ;D
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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Shure A27M
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/68616-REG/Shure_A27M_A27M_Stereo_Stand_Adapter.html
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I own the AKG, the Shure A27M and I got something that looks like the KM that was included in my set of Busman mics.
I probably use the AKG the most out of all of them because it's compact and still versatile.