Author Topic: Need Schoeps advice (Read 7629 times)

LCY · « **on:** March 30, 2004, 07:31:52 PM »

Need quick advice on some Schoeps. I'll be purchasing before price increase on 4/1. Thinking of 4V's. Regular bodies or XT? I do section and FOB, mostly medium to smaller sized venues. My section taping is usually the lawn at an outdoor venue and I stay away from large indoor arenas. Using a V3. Thanks for any advice.
LCY

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:49:42 PM »

some people tend to lean towards the other side of the cardiod spectrum for outdoors, that is, they go with subcards or omnis, but I don't own schoeps and have no personal experience.

and you s/n is very similar to kcy

KC5 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2004, 07:52:20 PM »

Quote from: LCY on March 30, 2004, 07:31:52 PM

Need quick advice on some Schoeps. I'll be purchasing before price increase on 4/1. Thinking of 4V's. Regular bodies or XT? I do section and FOB, mostly medium to smaller sized venues. My section taping is usually the lawn at an outdoor venue and I stay away from large indoor arenas. Using a V3. Thanks for any advice.
LCY

+t for considerin' the best mics out there

the xt's are for those who wish to record higher frequencies--ie. 40kHz. schoeps doesn't mention the 4v's as capable of 40kHz, if that's something you're considering.

LCY · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2004, 08:08:15 PM »

Good. I wasn't aware of 4V's not coping with the XT's. And to reply to the other post, I do intend on running omni's outdoors, but down the road a bit.

Nick Culbreth · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2004, 08:16:51 PM »

i'll start out by saying i've never run schoeps, but if i was going to get schoeps with just one set of caps i'd definately go with the mk41 cap. i think they're the most versatile of the schoeps caps and if you want to invest in another set of caps later you could add a set of mk21s. i've never found the mk4s or mk4vs to be all that great, especially the mk4vs which i find to be a bit shrill sounding.

jnorman34 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2004, 08:19:35 PM »

i had a pair of cmc64s, and i would recommend the regular mic bodies rather than the XT, and i would suggest the mk41 caps for your use.

LCY · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2004, 08:23:30 PM »

Hypers? Not really into that sound. I really want to start with cards and then omni's later on. I've heard the 4V's are bright, maybe the 4's are the way to go.

Nick Culbreth · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2004, 10:08:26 PM »

if you do decide to go with the mk4s there are a matched set for sale in the used gear section. here's the link:

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=16280

creekfreak · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2004, 09:22:16 AM »

keep in mind the mk41 does not sound like your typical hyper. I have run the 41 and 4's, I pretty much choose the mk41's over the 4's every time. Take a look at the mk5's, get the card and omni cap in one, might fit your needs nicely.

plucks · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2004, 12:24:58 PM »

yeah, MK5s are sweet!!
Id go with the MK41 or MK4v. The MK4v is nice since it kind of evens out the richness of the Schoeps sound, as far as the high end goes.
Everyone's ears are different though, so it's a hard call! What do you like most?

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:41:56 PM »

Quote from: creekfreak on March 31, 2004, 09:22:16 AM

keep in mind the mk41 does not sound like your typical hyper. I have run the 41 and 4's, I pretty much choose the mk4's over the 41's every time. Take a look at the mk5's, get the card and omni cap in one, might fit your needs nicely.

might be because the 41s aren't hypers

ts · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:51:43 PM »

Is there a diff. between super and hyper? I thought they were the same? Maybe not with Schoeps?

creekfreak · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:56:50 PM »

thats what I meant by saying that the 41 is not your typical hyper

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2004, 01:58:28 PM »

Quote from: creekfreak on March 31, 2004, 01:56:50 PM

thats what I meant by saying that the 41 is not your typical hyper

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2004, 02:05:23 PM »

Quote from: ts on March 31, 2004, 01:51:43 PM

Is there a diff. between super and hyper? I thought they were the same? Maybe not with Schoeps?

Audix sells their MICROS line with both hyper cardiod and super cardiod elements as options. I don't know about other companies

Lee · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2004, 07:02:20 PM »

my understanding is that supercard doesn't have the rear lobe that hypercard does. The tradeoff is that it's a slightly wider pickup pattern in the front lobe (between true hyper and card, but much closer to hyper).

Tim · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2004, 07:07:19 PM »

rear lobe is present

http://www.schoeps.de/E/mk-ccm41S.html

Tim · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2004, 07:08:45 PM »

I guess I'll add that while I have heard good 4v tapes I prefer the 4's or 41's to the 4v's. The highend rise in the V's can be a bit bright in some situations.

KC5 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2004, 07:30:47 PM »

i've heard plenty of 4v tapes usually with a vms or billbox and mod sbm-1. and allmost always run fob. maybe it's the modsbm-1 or running fob, but i like the 4v sound in these recordings. of course, my favorite cap is the 41

schoeps t00bes · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2004, 09:18:10 PM »

Sounds like the 5's are what you want.
I still think the 41's are the best cap Schoeps makes...although I say that while I am pondering how to steal Jason's 5's...

Dave

sideshowbob · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2004, 09:52:07 PM »

Good luck Dave....I've got them locked up until Vegas

Thanks....Jason

BCostigan · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2004, 10:36:13 PM »

Quote from: Moke on March 31, 2004, 10:04:18 PM

so sideshow,...... do schmeps sound like that front tire?
:fight:

sideshowbob · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2004, 11:59:27 PM »

Quote from: Moke on March 31, 2004, 10:04:18 PM

so sideshow,...... do schmeps sound like that front tire?
:fight:

I can dance to them

sideshowbob · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2004, 12:12:23 AM »

no wonder your opinion of them is so high, gotta rock in that box d00d!

where do them mics go?

You know you are jealous

I'll hook you up......

sideshowbob · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2004, 12:20:29 AM »

speakers

sideshowbob · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2004, 12:26:16 AM »

Turn that crap down!!!!

sideshowbob · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2004, 12:31:41 AM »

Quote from: Moke on April 01, 2004, 12:28:41 AM

ahhh, a properly sized avi!

stfu punk!

sideshowbob · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2004, 12:47:38 AM »

Quote from: Moke on April 01, 2004, 12:37:29 AM

Hopefully, since you've highjacked this thread, the poster has had his schoeps questions answered.
If they have any further questions I be sure to post your cell # for further questions

ready to call uncle yet? or shall I continue the barrage?

I like the MK5's. I have used them indoors and out in different circumstances. The switchable feature is very nice too. My Phish Miami shows are up somewhere, so look for those if you want to hear the 5's indoors. Also, look for Scott's MK5 split omni source on etree, and Dave's split omni Phish Utah from the summer. Overall, I love them. I have the 21's, 41's, and 5's and am quite drawn to the 5's.

I think our power hungry moderator should have looked into the CCM5's, but what do I know

sideshowbob · « **Reply #28 on:** April 01, 2004, 01:37:32 AM »

Quote from: Moke on April 01, 2004, 12:37:29 AM

If they have any further questions I be sure to post your cell # for further questions

I have your number too

C.Clark · « **Reply #29 on:** April 01, 2004, 02:02:51 AM »

thats camden right, my stand to the right with the green cables, back then i was running mp-2>adc-20 borrowed from nick culbreth, im such a gear slut and hope to come to the darkside at some point

sideshowbob · « **Reply #30 on:** April 01, 2004, 02:13:15 AM »

Quote from: Lord Ray on April 01, 2004, 02:02:51 AM

thats camden right, my stand to the right with the green cables, back then i was running mp-2>adc-20 borrowed from nick culbreth, im such a gear slut and hope to come to the darkside at some point

Chris...Yes, Camden

ts · « **Reply #31 on:** April 01, 2004, 09:14:03 AM »

Thanks, sideshow. Your recommendation is exactly what I have decided on. 41's to start, mk5's to follow and maybe mk21's down the road. Give my old NakCM 1000's a rest and plug something nice into my V3. Thanks everyone.
lcy and ts

Author Topic: Need Schoeps advice (Read 7629 times)

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