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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #301 on: February 21, 2014, 09:06:37 AM »
Thanks, dogmusic. But I'm still looking for the FAQ someone mentioned. I have some questions about this unit, and don't really want to try to read thru all 847 pages.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #302 on: February 21, 2014, 02:50:35 PM »
Thanks, voltronic, very helpful!
willndmb, my problem with the dial is keeping it from from spinning. I guess I can tape it, but that is far from ideal.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #303 on: February 21, 2014, 02:52:00 PM »
Thanks, voltronic, very helpful!
willndmb, my problem with the dial is keeping it from from spinning. I guess I can tape it, but that is far from ideal.
ahh
Sorry misunderstood
I had it turn slightly before but nothing major
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #304 on: February 21, 2014, 03:23:01 PM »
I was worried about the record level dial moving as well, but I've used 2 M10's and neither has been an issue. Just put it in a generously sized pocket (not trousers) and you'll be ok.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #305 on: February 21, 2014, 03:30:05 PM »
I thought I was being careful, but the dial turned 2 or 3 times. Thankfully, it was turned down, so the recording isn't blown. But after all the rave reviews on this thing, I expected it to be nearly perfect for what I'm using it for -  >:D - and that's just not the case. I'm not ready to give up on it yet, but apart from the battery life, the R-05 seems better suited for my needs.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #306 on: February 21, 2014, 04:57:20 PM »
the R-05 seems better suited for my needs.
The location of the record level buttons, the lock switch and the input jacks is ideal on the R-05. I find it preferable for these reasons too.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #307 on: February 27, 2014, 08:37:28 PM »
I wonder if you got a unit with an unusually loose dial.

I keep the PCM-M10 in a camera pouch at my waist, and have never had the gain knob move unintentionally. In a tight pants pocket, that's a different story--though the more likely disaster is for the switches on the back to get switched--and Manual to Auto level is a baddie.

If you're happier with the R-05, the measurements do look pretty similar.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #308 on: March 23, 2014, 10:04:04 AM »
I formatted a 64gb card in the M10 and now it's a 32 gb card. What happened? :facepalm: anyway to fix this?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #309 on: March 23, 2014, 12:28:08 PM »
I haven't used a 64GB card yet, but as I understand it, 64GB cards are XC (extra-high-capacity?) rather than HC (high capacity?) cards with a different format. They need to be formatted to FAT32 so the PCM-M10 can read them. Recent Windows versions don't have a FAT32 Format option for those big cards, but third-party software will do it.

Anyway, try reformatting it in the computer.  Here's a step-by-step.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/456327/sony-pcm-m10-as-portable-player/120

My guess is that the PCM-M10 never expected anything bigger than 32GB so that's how it formatted the card.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #310 on: March 23, 2014, 01:47:08 PM »
I haven't used a 64GB card yet, but as I understand it, 64GB cards are XC (extra-high-capacity?) rather than HC (high capacity?) cards with a different format. They need to be formatted to FAT32 so the PCM-M10 can read them. Recent Windows versions don't have a FAT32 Format option for those big cards, but third-party software will do it.

Anyway, try reformatting it in the computer.  Here's a step-by-step.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/456327/sony-pcm-m10-as-portable-player/120

My guess is that the PCM-M10 never expected anything bigger than 32GB so that's how it formatted the card.

Thanks! I have Vista which will do FAT32. It opens the card with 26.5 gb and no matter what I try it stays at 26.5. I should have formatted it before I stuck it in the M10. I vaguely remember someone saying to do that. Bean? Anyway, I think it is now permanently stuck at 26.5 gb. The above solution didn't work. It's a Sony card. Maybe that's the problem.  ::)

edit: Looks like it's a Vista problem. My laptop with Windows 7 sees it as a 64GB card. Any solutions for Vista?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #311 on: March 23, 2014, 03:38:26 PM »
Any solutions for Vista?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #312 on: March 23, 2014, 05:27:48 PM »
I have a 64GB M-10.  I followed the instructions in the link posted above.  The only issue that I have had since starting to use the larger format card was trying record at 24/96.  I only did that one time and now I run it at 24/48 and mostly just as a backup.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #313 on: March 25, 2014, 02:04:37 AM »
Try here:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=147551.msg1891476
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=151345.0
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=139501.0

Thanks for linking to my FAQ page! I updated it with the newest parts to have easy access to all 7 sections. It seems the same questions are asked over and over about the m10.   ::)
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)
« Reply #314 on: April 11, 2014, 05:45:49 PM »
Okay, finally gave in and bought one of these. Where do I go for my initiation ritual?

 

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