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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2006, 01:55:50 PM »
I'm using Sandisc UltraII 2 gig cards. So far they seem fine in my 660 ACM.

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2006, 04:38:08 PM »
More from Doug...

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Kingston is emerging as a real problem card with Marantz and Tascam
units. Lexar and Sandisc seem to be not only the most reliable but also
the most quiet. It is looking like the issue is one of users buying
cards that are not recommended by the engineering team that built the
recorders and the result is poor performance. ...Doug

Mind you, I just noted in my previous email to him that my current card is a Sandisc and I'm still experiencing a lot of noise.  Not sure what to make of it, other than he doesn't think it's resolveable.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2006, 04:43:05 PM »
Shit, I thought Kingston cards were recommended.. that's what I have, and the one time I used it in the 660, it worked fine.....

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2006, 04:47:00 PM »
have you tried recording at maximum levels without mics plugged in (internal mics disabled) to test the self-noise Andrew?  I get a loud ticking, particularly in one channel with the Kingston standard 2gb card.  On the other hand, a lot of users here have good reports of using Kingston cards.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2006, 05:01:54 PM »
have you tried recording at maximum levels without mics plugged in (internal mics disabled) to test the self-noise Andrew?  I get a loud ticking, particularly in one channel with the Kingston standard 2gb card.  On the other hand, a lot of users here have good reports of using Kingston cards.
what makes you think that is the card?

Matt

*edit*  I just read up... seems odd.  I get some of that with my ridata 80x 2gb but I thought that was normal for an unmodded unit.

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2006, 05:04:22 PM »
have you tried recording at maximum levels without mics plugged in (internal mics disabled) to test the self-noise Andrew?  I get a loud ticking, particularly in one channel with the Kingston standard 2gb card.  On the other hand, a lot of users here have good reports of using Kingston cards.

I'm still waiting on my unit. Will have it in 1.5 weeks... I will try it out then... I have a 45x 4gb Kingston ElitePro.. which I've heard many folks have used with success.

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2006, 05:50:50 PM »
Kingston 45X 4GB card here. I've recorded at least 30 times with no problems. I also have a Sandisc 1GB card and have seen no problems....................................except when I forgot to remove the caps from my mics. It sounded real muffled almost like you were in a jar.  ;)
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2006, 06:09:20 PM »
Kingston 45X 4GB card here. I've recorded at least 30 times with no problems. I also have a Sandisc 1GB card and have seen no problems....................................except when I forgot to remove the caps from my mics. It sounded real muffled almost like you were in a jar.  ;)

HAHA. Reminds me of my buddy who ran his 4060's for the first time a few years back and pointed them in the wrong direction!
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2006, 08:59:21 PM »
have you tried recording at maximum levels without mics plugged in (internal mics disabled) to test the self-noise Andrew?  I get a loud ticking, particularly in one channel with the Kingston standard 2gb card.  On the other hand, a lot of users here have good reports of using Kingston cards.
what makes you think that is the card?

Matt

*edit*  I just read up... seems odd.  I get some of that with my ridata 80x 2gb but I thought that was normal for an unmodded unit.

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I should point out that my unit is unmodded, and I can only hear this jacking the knobs all up.  I attached an mp3 sample to show what I'm getting... maybe it is worse or better than others... we should probably compare.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2006, 11:13:58 PM »
the ticking is what I'm talking about. Audible in your sample as well.  That's the sound attributed to your CF card. My Kingston card creates similar noise. On my SanDisc card there is quite a bit less (sample attached), but it's still enough to be audible on quiet segments of acoustic shows being recorded at high gain.  I've had that problem fairly frequently.  If you're strictly recording rock bands it's unlikely to be an issue, but unamplified jazz is a different story. 
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2006, 11:39:14 PM »
Are we running a recorded file with no XLRs plugged in?...I will try it later when I get some feedback from all of you.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2006, 01:47:04 AM »
Are we running a recorded file with no XLRs plugged in?...I will try it later when I get some feedback from all of you.

I should note I ran xlr in, no cables/mics, no pad, knobs full up.

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2006, 09:16:48 AM »
I'll have to check this out too when my unit arrives.

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2006, 09:29:10 AM »
Are we running a recorded file with no XLRs plugged in?...I will try it later when I get some feedback from all of you.

I should note I ran xlr in, no cables/mics, no pad, knobs full up.

Matt

matt, I ran with pad engaged, which might explain some of the noise level difference. Also, the ACM vs. standard model noise levels should be different. 
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2006, 09:34:09 AM »
Are we running a recorded file with no XLRs plugged in?...I will try it later when I get some feedback from all of you.

I should note I ran xlr in, no cables/mics, no pad, knobs full up.

Matt

matt, I ran with pad engaged, which might explain some of the noise level difference. Also, the ACM vs. standard model noise levels should be different. 

yes... I'm sure that made a difference.  However, I stuck an old 128Mb flash card in there and the noise wasn't as apparent so I'm thinking my card is part culprit.  Still seems odd though with no moving parts and all...


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