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Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« on: February 22, 2008, 09:44:33 PM »
hey
I am just wondering if any one has any experience
with
the
Naiant X-Q omni  pair mics?

http://www.naiant.com/xqspecification.html

I am wondering for stealth  any one try these out?
that are not expensive, and seem small... I prefer cards but these could be pretty good for a loud rock show...

X-Q Specifications

Type: 6mm omnidirectional electret condenser microphone
Phantom Power: +9V to +48V
Plug-in Power: +3V minimum
Current: 1mA maximum
Recommended Input Impedance: 1KΩ minimum
Sensitivity, 1kHz @ 94dBSPL: -38dBV/Pa
Total Harmonic Distortion, 1kHz @ 94dBSPL: 0.3% typical
Maximum Level, 1kHz @ 1% THD: 108dBSPL
Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz
Polar Response, 180°: -3dB @ 10kHz
Self-Noise: 20dBA
Weight: 1.5oz (42g)
Dimensions: 2" x 3/4"ø (51mm x 19mmø)



any real life experiences would be useful

I may be going to a show where these could be cool
for under $100 for the pair
that could be great

thanx  in advance for the posts





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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 10:11:19 PM »
oh I just realized that these only have
Maximum Level, 1kHz @ 1% THD: 108dBSPL

so thay might not be able to handle loud rock show...
any one try these?
~ Archival Audio ~
Archiving Worthy Music
since 1986 & digitally since 1995

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Main Mics: Milab VM-44 Links • Milab DC-196's (Matched  Pair)  • MBHO KA500 or KA300 •
PreAmps:  BaybNbox  • Naiant LittleBox • Naiant [Milab VM44] TinyBox • Naiant PIPsqueak
Recorders: MixPre 10T •  Tascam DR-100 mkIII • Sony A-10 • Sony M-10 

macMini 3Ghz i7 16GB Ram 500GB SSD • MOTU UltraLite
Naiant MSH-2's •   TOA K1's • Beyer TG 153c's •  AT 853 (4.7kmod darktrain) • Countryman B3's (1 k mod)  + other assorted mics

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 08:39:06 PM »
very cool
I am liking what I am seeing in the new X-M
but at  just over 4" those are looong... lol ;)
very cool can't wait to hear more...
thanx
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Main Mics: Milab VM-44 Links • Milab DC-196's (Matched  Pair)  • MBHO KA500 or KA300 •
PreAmps:  BaybNbox  • Naiant LittleBox • Naiant [Milab VM44] TinyBox • Naiant PIPsqueak
Recorders: MixPre 10T •  Tascam DR-100 mkIII • Sony A-10 • Sony M-10 

macMini 3Ghz i7 16GB Ram 500GB SSD • MOTU UltraLite
Naiant MSH-2's •   TOA K1's • Beyer TG 153c's •  AT 853 (4.7kmod darktrain) • Countryman B3's (1 k mod)  + other assorted mics

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 09:09:04 PM »
Doe you have something that handles around 130spl.......?

Thats the typical magic number I see for rock shows.

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 09:18:15 PM »
oh I just realized that these only have
Maximum Level, 1kHz @ 1% THD: 108dBSPL

so thay might not be able to handle loud rock show...
any one try these?


John makes some good mics and for the price I think they are worth trying. I have heard lots of good things about them and he seems to know what he is talking about. I also think his product looks good too.

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 09:49:00 PM »
I know . . . I know  :-[ In the future I might move the whole circuit to surface mount, that could chop an inch off the mic, but for the first PCB run I'll stick with the longer case.  There are a lot of components on this board already . . .  :o

hey I was just kidding about the length...
but if they could be shorter thats sweet!
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Main Mics: Milab VM-44 Links • Milab DC-196's (Matched  Pair)  • MBHO KA500 or KA300 •
PreAmps:  BaybNbox  • Naiant LittleBox • Naiant [Milab VM44] TinyBox • Naiant PIPsqueak
Recorders: MixPre 10T •  Tascam DR-100 mkIII • Sony A-10 • Sony M-10 

macMini 3Ghz i7 16GB Ram 500GB SSD • MOTU UltraLite
Naiant MSH-2's •   TOA K1's • Beyer TG 153c's •  AT 853 (4.7kmod darktrain) • Countryman B3's (1 k mod)  + other assorted mics

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 09:12:17 PM »
I ended up ordering some MSH-2's
since they are such a great deal at $29 each...
I figured that they'd be cool to have 
and try in some different situations...

:)
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since 1986 & digitally since 1995

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Main Mics: Milab VM-44 Links • Milab DC-196's (Matched  Pair)  • MBHO KA500 or KA300 •
PreAmps:  BaybNbox  • Naiant LittleBox • Naiant [Milab VM44] TinyBox • Naiant PIPsqueak
Recorders: MixPre 10T •  Tascam DR-100 mkIII • Sony A-10 • Sony M-10 

macMini 3Ghz i7 16GB Ram 500GB SSD • MOTU UltraLite
Naiant MSH-2's •   TOA K1's • Beyer TG 153c's •  AT 853 (4.7kmod darktrain) • Countryman B3's (1 k mod)  + other assorted mics

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 10:08:06 PM »
OtheroneK, 130 dB SPL is about what you might get near the bell of a trombone that's being played fortissimo by a professional. If you'd been recording shows that reached this level at the audience position on anything like a regular basis, you and a lot of other good people would be profoundly and permanently deaf by now.

The highest SPL I have ever measured in live music was just under 122 dB SPL. It was one momentary peak produced by a very impressive, trained opera singer singing at the top of her range (E-flat above high C) during a special vocal exercise in a master class a few years ago. She and her teacher (Dr. Michael Warren here in New York--who as a teacher really does deserve the title of "master" in my opinion) worked up to that note for about ten minutes beforehand.

This level was obtained by placing the microphone a few inches in front of her mouth. I was sitting across the room and where I was sitting, it was a startlingly loud sound. Having a 130 dB SPL limit is nice for special applications (as mentioned above), but practically speaking, for recording at moderate distances, if you have microphones which can handle 120 - 125 dB SPL, you are far more likely to overload a preamp or recorder input with their signals than they are likely to ever be overloaded by sound pressure.

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Re: Naiant X-Q omni - any experiences?
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 08:40:23 AM »
thanx Jon!
that's a great description...

that's basically what he told me in our email correspondence
and also why I ended up ordering some of the older MSH-2's

-- Ian
~ Archival Audio ~
Archiving Worthy Music
since 1986 & digitally since 1995

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Main Mics: Milab VM-44 Links • Milab DC-196's (Matched  Pair)  • MBHO KA500 or KA300 •
PreAmps:  BaybNbox  • Naiant LittleBox • Naiant [Milab VM44] TinyBox • Naiant PIPsqueak
Recorders: MixPre 10T •  Tascam DR-100 mkIII • Sony A-10 • Sony M-10 

macMini 3Ghz i7 16GB Ram 500GB SSD • MOTU UltraLite
Naiant MSH-2's •   TOA K1's • Beyer TG 153c's •  AT 853 (4.7kmod darktrain) • Countryman B3's (1 k mod)  + other assorted mics

 

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