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Title: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: igene on August 08, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
anyone use this ?

good sound  ? function ? ease of use ? reliability ? raves ? issues ? anything else...?
looks good on paper...

thanks.

user / info manual >
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/FlygCow24b_Manual.pdf

Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: runonce on August 08, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
anyone use this ?

good sound  ? function ? ease of use ? reliability ? raves ? issues ? anything else...?
looks good on paper...

thanks.

user / info manual >
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/FlygCow24b_Manual.pdf

Just sold mine...nice enough, runs forever on 9V DVD batteries...I think the inputs are unbalanced. I ran it with the NAK MX100...but with the JB3, so it was truncating...still - always sounded nice enough.

http://www.archive.org/details/qst2005-02-04
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: igene on August 08, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
anyone use this ?

good sound  ? function ? ease of use ? reliability ? raves ? issues ? anything else...?
looks good on paper...

thanks.

user / info manual >
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/FlygCow24b_Manual.pdf

Just sold mine...nice enough, runs forever on 9V DVD batteries...I think the inputs are unbalanced. I ran it with the NAK MX100...but with the JB3, so it was truncating...still - always sounded nice enough.

http://www.archive.org/details/qst2005-02-04

How did you get it to run on 9V batteries.
I thought it was 9 VAC input ?

Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: runonce on August 08, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
anyone use this ?

good sound  ? function ? ease of use ? reliability ? raves ? issues ? anything else...?
looks good on paper...

thanks.

user / info manual >
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/FlygCow24b_Manual.pdf

Just sold mine...nice enough, runs forever on 9V DVD batteries...I think the inputs are unbalanced. I ran it with the NAK MX100...but with the JB3, so it was truncating...still - always sounded nice enough.

http://www.archive.org/details/qst2005-02-04

How did you get it to run on 9V batteries.
I thought it was 9 VAC input ?

Aw crap - I had the Flying Calf - similar product...24bit, but no level control, unbalanced ins...

Sorry bout that...
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: kirk97132 on August 09, 2011, 08:30:53 AM
Do you really want the D/A?  If not I have a Lucid 9624 for A/D that I am selling.
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: igene on August 09, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
thanks, but the Lucid is mucho $$.
I can get a used Flying cow for $40./+ ship.
New price is ~>$200.

Can you see why I'm interested ?

need some input folks.

thanks.
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: TNJazz on August 09, 2011, 03:14:34 PM
They stopped making these things YEARS ago I thought.  I'd call the A/D technology pretty old.  You mostly get what you pay for, you know...
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: F.O.Bean on August 09, 2011, 06:57:30 PM
thanks, but the Lucid is mucho $$.
I can get a used Flying cow for $40./+ ship.
New price is ~>$200.

Can you see why I'm interested ?

need some input folks.

thanks.

Gene, if you can get me one that cheap, PLEASE email/PM me so I can grab one :) 8)

TIA,
Bean
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: runonce on August 09, 2011, 11:20:07 PM
thanks, but the Lucid is mucho $$.
I can get a used Flying cow for $40./+ ship.
New price is ~>$200.

Can you see why I'm interested ?

need some input folks.

thanks.

I think you answered your own question upthread...9VAC makes this a no-go...

This was early 24 bit stuff - came out before there were even a handful of recorders that could even accept a 24bit signal...

I think the built in ADs in a lot of inexpensive gear could easily give this a run for the money...

It seems the old A/D>Bit Bucket thing is slowly giving way to all-in-one-sies that sport modern, native 24 bit ADs...
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: kirk97132 on August 10, 2011, 08:38:51 AM
thanks, but the Lucid is mucho $$.
I can get a used Flying cow for $40./+ ship.
New price is ~>$200.

Can you see why I'm interested ?

need some input folks.

thanks.
I'd do it for $400 shipped to your door.  But it is AC powered only too.  A very nice unit with high end converters.....yada yada yada.  BUt if you're looking to keep it cheap I'd grab that BIN  from the flea.  You can easily get an AC ps to power it up.   I had looked at those when I was shopping for a second digi input to a 680.  Besides the AC only drawback there was something else that didn't work for my application.....I can't remember exactly now it's been awhile....maybe a resample of digi input so it didn't pass a bit perfect signal?? Damn I need to start keeping spread sheets of pro/cons...could have been lack of WC.....sorry I can't remember, check the specs to see if it is a true 24 bit maybe it was a 20bit conversion upsampled????
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: igene on August 10, 2011, 09:10:39 AM
thanks, but the Lucid is mucho $$.
I can get a used Flying cow for $40./+ ship.
New price is ~>$200.

Can you see why I'm interested ?

need some input folks.

thanks.
I'd do it for $400 shipped to your door.  But it is AC powered only too.  A very nice unit with high end converters.....yada yada yada.  BUt if you're looking to keep it cheap I'd grab that BIN  from the flea.  You can easily get an AC ps to power it up.   I had looked at those when I was shopping for a second digi input to a 680.  Besides the AC only drawback there was something else that didn't work for my application.....I can't remember exactly now it's been awhile....maybe a resample of digi input so it didn't pass a bit perfect signal?? Damn I need to start keeping spread sheets of pro/cons...could have been lack of WC.....sorry I can't remember, check the specs to see if it is a true 24 bit maybe it was a 20bit conversion upsampled????

that's the kind of stuff I was fishing for. I wish you could remember...

The AC is not a problem. I have decent technical skills, and someone to ask if I get stuck -
 I was thinking of opening it up, and modding the AC to DC in.
Electronics run on DC, so in the power supply section it converts the AC to DC.
I'd bypass that. (could be my next pictorial mod here on TS)
At $40. it's worth the hacking, and if I burn it our accidentally - $40. hurts a lot less than $200.

But if this is not true 24/48 then I won't bother.

anyone know for sure ?
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: kirk97132 on August 10, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
I can tell you that whatever turned me off of that unit I found with a little digging around  trying reviews and or reading manual specs or sites like home recording etc. 
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: TNJazz on August 10, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
There is no resampling on the Lucid stuff.
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: kirk97132 on August 10, 2011, 01:58:01 PM
There is no resampling on the Lucid stuff.
Right I didn't mean to infer that, I like the lucid and the metering is top notch.  If it ran on batteries I'd be sporting a woody :o
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: F.O.Bean on August 11, 2011, 09:15:57 PM
Ive been craving a LUCID DAC so I can run the coax out of my PC>LUCID DAC>Sony Speakers :)
Title: Re: anyone ever use : M-AUDIO MIDIMAN FLYING COW 24 BIT A/D-D/A CONVERTER ?
Post by: igene on August 12, 2011, 07:48:11 AM
nevermind...
 I wasn't home and lost the auction  :-\
Thanks for the insight