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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: jj69 on February 26, 2015, 10:52:22 PM
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First off, I do realize that many stealth issues are be best left to PMs. If there's something you can help me with that shouldn't be posted publicly, please feel free to PM me.
I've owned my CA-14's for over a year now, but I've only used them a couple of times because I simply cannot find a logical way to clip them to my shirt. The fixed-position clip (which is at a 90 degree angle to the orientation of the mic) always seems to leave the mics in the worst possible position when clipped to a shirt (i.e. pointing straight up or straight down).
I'm used to clipping much smaller mics to my shirt collar and just forgetting about them. The CA-14's, however, are a bit too heavy for shirt collar mounting. They always pull the collar down under their weight and the mics end up pointing toward the ground.
There are so many people stealthing with CA-14s that someone must have found a solution. Everyone can't be hat mounting them? FWIW, I really don't want cards clipped to my head/hat/glasses - I don't like the idea of not being able to move my head.
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First off, I do realize that many stealth issues are be best left to PMs. If there's something you can help me with that shouldn't be posted publicly, please feel free to PM me.
I've owned my CA-14's for over a year now, but I've only used them a couple of times because I simply cannot find a logical way to clip them to my shirt. The fixed-position clip (which is at a 90 degree angle to the orientation of the mic) always seems to leave the mics in the worst possible position when clipped to a shirt (i.e. pointing straight up or straight down).
I'm used to clipping much smaller mics to my shirt collar and just forgetting about them. The CA-14's, however, are a bit too heavy for shirt collar mounting. They always pull the collar down under their weight and the mics end up pointing toward the ground.
There are so many people stealthing with CA-14s that someone must have found a solution. Everyone can't be hat mounting them? FWIW, I really don't want cards clipped to my head/hat/glasses - I don't like the idea of not being able to move my head.
Get some omni caps??
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I've clipped CA-14 cards to the top of a shirt collar a couple of times with no problem. Yes, they pull the collar down a bit (to either side, so mics are still pointed forward), but that's not the worst thing, as it keeps them away from your neck. I personally prefer hat-mounted because I'm short, but either works.
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keep >:D >:D
but the higher that you can get the caps the better
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Buy a shirt with a stiffer collar? Or figure out a way of reinforcing it?
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
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@Hoppedup,id like a PM as well unless your taping from crotch level.
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
Me too I'd like to know your stealthing method...
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Count me in...just got CA-14's. Thanks.
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May I please have a copy of that PM, also? I'm considering CA-14s. Thanks in advance.
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@Hoppedup. I'd love a PM also. Just bought CA-14s about 2 weeks ago and am looking for best ways to wear/use them. Would much appreciate any insights/suggestions you have.
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I sent a pm on my cafs mounting.
@Hoppedup. I'd love a pm on your setup as well >:D
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I sent a pm on my cafs mounting.
To me too, please...
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Hoppedup, if you wouldn't mind sending another PM...
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I'd like that pm as well if you have the time or if someone else can shoot it my way it would be much appreciated! Thanks!
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I'd like that pm as well if you have the time or if someone else can shoot it my way it would be much appreciated! Thanks!
me too, would be great :-)
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thanks !
pillowman
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
can you pm me too?
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:facepalm:
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velcro dots in a hat
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
Can you please add me to the PM list as well? Thanks!
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Sorry, I don't internet much on the weekends as I do not have a connection at home and the phone is a PITA for this type of stuff.
I think I responded to everyone now. Seems like others are using a similar method already.
ETA: About the questions of noise, here is a show I taped with this method: https://archive.org/details/dalewatson2012-09-15.CA-14omni.flac24
I was pretty far back and the omnis still did pretty well.
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Here's a clip from another stealth job using this method: https://soundcloud.com/hoppedup/texas-song-slaid-cleaves-bristol-rr-2012-09-15
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Thanks for the PM and the samples. Sounds nice.
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Please, PM me!!
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I too would like a PM. Always looking for cool methods.
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Particularly in a quiet situation, I'm not happy with the CA-14 on a shirt collar. Something always rustles one of them at some point.
So if someone has gotten hoppedup's PM and can pass it on, please do.
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I too would be interested in learning this method if someone could PM me with the info. Thanks!
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Sorry, I don't internet much on the weekends as I do not have a connection at home and the phone is a PITA for this type of stuff.
I think I responded to everyone now. Seems like others are using a similar method already.
ETA: About the questions of noise, here is a show I taped with this method: https://archive.org/details/dalewatson2012-09-15.CA-14omni.flac24
I was pretty far back and the omnis still did pretty well.
If possible, please PM me.
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
If you could send me a Pm regarding this, it would be much appreciated! I have a set of CA-14s on their way to me now and id love to get some great ideas from other tapers.
Thanks in advance!
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add me to the list!
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You should PM everyone on the ts.com site.
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Picked up a set of CA-14 omnis and cards last November and would also appreciate a PM. Been trying to figure out the best way to mount them. Thanks.
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Would be nice to get your method too !
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You should PM everyone on the ts.com site.
Chris, will think I'm only messing with him...but seriously, if this is such a good method and there is this much interest, why not send it to Chris Church and have him include it with each package he sells?
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I sort of advocate the old fashioned method of, get out there, try it, listen, make adjustments, learn, try again, listen, make adjustments method. I'm not much into coddling.
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After sending my method out to many people, the responses indicate most people are doing something really similar anyway. It's not rocket science, but a few people have also said that they were going to tweak their method just a bit because they hadn't thought of one aspect. A few are going to take what I did and make it better.
I haven't stealthed in a couple of years and have no plans to anytime soon. The links I posted were from stealth tapes I made of taper-friendly artists, actually. They were both at a festival with sixteen venues within a half-mile radius. I was able to move among shows really quickly without set-up and break down.
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When I first learned about stealth recording from an old Chicago taper who's no longer with us, he taught me to tape the mics to my shoulders. Works great seeing I'm over 6 feet tall and still allows you to move your head as normal.
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I would appreciated a PM as well. Thanks.
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I would appreciated a PM as well. Thanks.
Me too!
Thanks
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amusing. i stealth with cmc-6/mk4 though kc5 cables and a sound devices 722. hundereds of shows and never caught.
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Can someone forward me the pm too!? Stealthing Colin Haye for my mom on friday >:D
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Hey guys could I join the party? I have been taping for 20 years but have never stealthed before. Just got a new rig. PCM M10/Ca 11's (cards and omnis)/Ugly II. I have a show coming up a week from tomorrow I'd appreciate hearing this mic tip! Mike
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Could I get on this PM too, please? Cheers!
pm x
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Add me to the PM list as well. Thank you in advance.
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I'm interested in the pm too please. Thanks.
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Ditto on the PM, if possible, thanks!
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I would like to join the list :-)
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amusing. i stealth with cmc-6/mk4 though kc5 cables and a sound devices 722. hundereds of shows and never caught.
I'd be curious how this is done myself, no one else ??
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I too would be interested in learning this method if someone could PM me with the info. Thanks!
^ this - if anyone could forward on the info.....Gracias!
Then I think this thread should self destruct.......
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
I like to join the bandwagon here, please send me an PM on how too, thanks
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Please add me to the list it may work with my Countryman's or be worth another pair of mic's.
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I also heard good recordings made by similar little mics on shoulder under shirt.
Sometimes I place my CA-14 simply just above the collar/neck of a t-shirt. I "pull" out the mics to stay out of my t-shirt and thats it. Of course its amateur way but works, if you didnt move. And if you walked away after the show, put back under your shirt on your shoulders... get out again when the next starts.
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I'd appreciate it if someone could please PM me stealth methods for CA-14 cards, I'd appreciate it!
Thank You!
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Five pages of "me too" and whatnot. Why don't you just say the damn thing and get it over with?
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yep. I'd like hear what you got. pm or post.
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Five pages of "me too" and whatnot. Why don't you just say the damn thing and get it over with?
First, get a bone saw...
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Someone pm me the info as well please
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Is there someone out there who could forward me the pm?
Many thanks!
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
I would appreciate the info. Please pm. Thanks!
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People who's first post is in this thread... :facepalm:
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Would love to see this set up. I've clipped then to my hat but sound fluctuates and I fear getting seen. Thanks
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Can I jump on the bandwagon too and get a PM? I'm considering upgrading my mics. Thanks!
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If you can't get your mics to the highest
part of your body, then you are not going
to be making the best possible recordings.
Figure it out, you are not re-inventing the wheel.
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Can I jump on the bandwagon too and get a PM? I'm considering upgrading my mics. Thanks!
Buy the Schoeps MK4's in YS. That will upgrade your mics
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I would like join PM list as well, please!
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I'm very interested in this topic today! Please PM me.
Thanks!
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I'm very interested in this topic today! Please PM me.
Thanks!
It's nothing groundbreaking as most of us were already doing this method, but here it is: please request a PM in this thread for details.
Moderated by BSkalinder | TS has an informal policy of keeping stealth, well...stealth. That means we try to avoid public discussions of stealth methods and discuss them strictly via PM or email. Thanks for your understanding.
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Can I be PMed about this also?
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Now I want a PM, just to find out if it's the method I'm thinking of or something else. Thanks!
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Now I want a PM, just to find out if it's the method I'm thinking of or something else. Thanks!
done...
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Please add me to the list!
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This may be the most content-free thread I have ever seen...
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A newer version of an old favorite! 4-in-1
(https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hasselcrotch.gif?w=618&h=233)
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The Hoff was bound to turn up here sooner or later...
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The Hoff was bound to turn up here sooner or later...
+T
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My CA-14 stealth method is completely undetectable unless there is a pat down. PM sent.
Im also interested in how you do this. Can you PM me. Thanks
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New to recording with external mics (and also to the forum). Recently ordered CA14s and found this thread while searching for advice on how to mount the mics in a good way, so I would be more than happy to get the PM as well.
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Me too
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I am astonished we have six pages of this. How hard is it to "clip CA-14 cards to your shirt"? Here's a thought: instead of posting here, why don't you just PM hoppedup or whoever and ask? Six pages of "me too!!!" Sigh...
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I am astonished we have six pages of this. How hard is it to "clip CA-14 cards to your shirt"? Here's a thought: instead of posting here, why don't you just PM hoppedup or whoever and ask? Six pages of "me too!!!" Sigh...
Right?
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I am astonished we have six pages of this. How hard is it to "clip CA-14 cards to your shirt"? Here's a thought: instead of posting here, why don't you just PM hoppedup or whoever and ask? Six pages of "me too!!!" Sigh...
You don't have to read it if you don't like it.
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I'm also interested in how you do this. Can you PM me? Thank you!
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Late to this topic. Great ideas guys.
Hey, since everyone is so helpful, could someone please tell me the correct mounting method for the use of this style (https://s15-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthenypost.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F06%2Fspl1261367_001.jpg%3Fquality%3D90%26amp%3Bstrip%3Dall%26amp%3Bw%3D664%26amp%3Bh%3D441%26amp%3Bcrop%3D1&sp=7652efe8477d81a624b8ddf5c7cc6959)of >:D capture device? Thanks
I use a hat.
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I am also very interested. Maybe someone still reads this and pms me :)
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I am astonished we have six pages of this. How hard is it to "clip CA-14 cards to your shirt"? Here's a thought: instead of posting here, why don't you just PM hoppedup or whoever and ask? Six pages of "me too!!!" Sigh...
Kind of silly for you to be so bothered by it. Are we back to the early days of the internet when people bitched about "waste of bandwidth" again? If not, then don't read all six pages and enjoy the time you saved. Simple enough.
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I am astonished we have six pages of this. How hard is it to "clip CA-14 cards to your shirt"? Here's a thought: instead of posting here, why don't you just PM hoppedup or whoever and ask? Six pages of "me too!!!" Sigh...
Kind of silly for you to be so bothered by it. Are we back to the early days of the internet when people bitched about "waste of bandwidth" again? If not, then don't read all six pages and enjoy the time you saved. Simple enough.
Not nearly as silly as deleting your threads because you're not getting the responses you wanted/expected...
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I am astonished we have six pages of this. How hard is it to "clip CA-14 cards to your shirt"? Here's a thought: instead of posting here, why don't you just PM hoppedup or whoever and ask? Six pages of "me too!!!" Sigh...
I stopped answering those PMs a while back. I had everything typed up in a text file and would copy and paste to PM. I inadvertently erased that file and I'm not retyping it.
So many people asking about something that is not exactly rocket science.
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^ That post is nearly two years old! I hope the resurrection of this necro-thread didn't lead to a bunch of new PMs, especially since, as you said, it isn't exactly rocket science...
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Please guys, someone send me the trick :)
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I am on the verge of asking Chris Church to stop making CA-14 cards, if it'll put an end to this thread.
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I am on the verge of asking Chris Church to stop making CA-14 cards, if it'll put an end to this thread.
Maybe if you put in an order that will slow things down.