Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (part V)

[stepeanut]

I've been buying from these guys for a couple of years (mostly external HD modules) and they are reliable, and quick, if they have the product in stock.  I had to wait a couple of months for the M10 to come back into stock, but when it did they honoured the reduced price, which came into effect after I had placed my original order.  I would recommend using CVP, but be sure to call them first to check availability.

[morst]

I've searched the User Guide on the M-10 but can't find an answer. Does anyone have an idea about how far from 3 volts the M-10 is operational? I know that it can not be exactly 3 volt but is a range just like the larger rigs. I just haven't seen it posted anywhere. Any ideas?

Someone with a good voltmeter could test a pair or AA's right after they die?

[zcream]

Is there a way to order a replacement front faceplate ? Mine got dented during shipping and the Menu and Display buttons dont work. I opened it up and without the faceplate everything works.
I think the buttons are slightly out of alignment.

Any idea where I can get one ?

[F.O.Bean]

I've searched the User Guide on the M-10 but can't find an answer. Does anyone have an idea about how far from 3 volts the M-10 is operational? I know that it can not be exactly 3 volt but is a range just like the larger rigs. I just haven't seen it posted anywhere. Any ideas?

Someone with a good voltmeter could test a pair or AA's right after they die?

I will do that tonight/tomorrow

[Muddy Das]

just wanted to know if anyone is haveing rechargeable battrie issues. I have been using just some regular alkaline batteries that i get from work duracell procell i usally get been getting amazing long life from them. This past weekend i used energizer 2300 rechargable and had to switch them out during set break. i don't get it they work fine in my discman and the kids toys is there something i am missing. i just don't get it.

[jbell]

Did you change the battery settings in the Menu?? 

just wanted to know if anyone is haveing rechargeable battrie issues. I have been using just some regular alkaline batteries that i get from work duracell procell i usally get been getting amazing long life from them. This past weekend i used energizer 2300 rechargable and had to switch them out during set break. i don't get it they work fine in my discman and the kids toys is there something i am missing. i just don't get it.

[Artstar]

just wanted to know if anyone is haveing rechargeable battrie issues. I have been using just some regular alkaline batteries that i get from work duracell procell i usally get been getting amazing long life from them. This past weekend i used energizer 2300 rechargable and had to switch them out during set break. i don't get it they work fine in my discman and the kids toys is there something i am missing. i just don't get it.

Potentially stupid question here but did you change the battery setting in your menu from Alkaline to NiMH? The characteristics of these batteries are such that they need to be measured and assessed differently.

[rastasean]

I have noticed rechargeable batteries generally don't last as long as Alkaline in the m10 so I just get a 4 pack once in a while and that will last.
Also, I have put a mostly fully charged pair of NiMH in the m10, and before adjusting the battery settings, it showed one bar missing. Once I set it to NiMH, it showed full power.

[Artstar]

Also, I have put a mostly fully charged pair of NiMH in the m10, and before adjusting the battery settings, it showed one bar missing. Once I set it to NiMH, it showed full power.

Exactly the point I was making earlier about measurement and assessment being different between the two chemistries.

[bryonsos]

just wanted to know if anyone is haveing rechargeable battrie issues. I have been using just some regular alkaline batteries that i get from work duracell procell i usally get been getting amazing long life from them. This past weekend i used energizer 2300 rechargable and had to switch them out during set break. i don't get it they work fine in my discman and the kids toys is there something i am missing. i just don't get it.

This is the one place I use disposable batteries, Energizer lithiums. With them I have gotten well in excess of 50 hours recording time on multiple occasions. I know that means they do end up in the landfill eventually, but in my mind that's a small impact in exchange for peace of mind and convenience. By small, I mean smaller than regular batteries where it's touch and go after ~20hrs. YMMV

I have used Sanyo Eneloops before with the deck set to NiMH, and got 20 hrs or so before I started to get worried.

[Artstar]

This is the one place I use disposable batteries, Energizer lithiums. With them I have gotten well in excess of 50 hours recording time on multiple occasions. I know that means they do end up in the landfill eventually, but in my mind that's a small impact in exchange for peace of mind and convenience. By small, I mean smaller than regular batteries where it's touch and go after ~20hrs. YMMV

I have used Sanyo Eneloops before with the deck set to NiMH, and got 20 hrs or so before I started to get worried.

I used to be a strong proponent of the Energizer lithium AA's (and still am for many applications). However, the battery meter in the PCM-M10 isn't as accurate as the PCM-D50 and as a result, I've been caught out once by it. What seemed like a full tank depleted very quickly despite my best calculations as to how many hours those batteries had done.

Since then, as much as I keep tabs on time, I much rather charge up a set of Powerex NiMH batteries the night before a show. Then I'll plug them in to record the show, knowing I'm reading a fairly accurate battery meter and more importantly, knowing I'll get the usual 3 hours worth of recording that I need.

To be bitten in the arse once is enough for me. Otherwise, the lithiums are great and definitely long lasting. The best thing of all ... there's little to no risk of them leaking! That in itself is well worth the premium.

[Javier Cinakowski]

I love the lithiums.  I put a fresh pair in the day of a show.  After the show I use the m10 for playback and song catching around the house.  Sometimes weeks go by and lots of use and the lithiums keep going.  When a show comes along I put a new set in....

Also, someday one of these jambands is going to access the time/space continuum and play in suspension for 48hrs straight, this is why lithiums are advantageous...

[Muddy Das]

DOH... no i didn't even think of the battery setting..well live and learn

[mloewen]

I got home from recording Bruce Hornsby on Friday and when I turn my M-10 on it light's up and then powers down like it has dead batteries. I got new batteries today and it still does the same. I can't  find the USB cord or the power supply to check if they work. I recorded  on the internal memory so can not access the show at this point. any ideas what the problem might be I don't think I dropped it. Don't know if it would cost more to have it worked than getting a new one? Where is the cheapest it is being sold now? So many questions.

[Myco]

Has anyone else experienced a problem with unmatched left-right channels on their m10? I know they bill them as matched to within 1db of each other, but mine has a left channel about 2db higher than the right channel. Easily correctable in post, and not extremely noticeable given that it's an omni pattern, but kinda annoying none-the-less.