Topic: Talk to me about sector boundaries

[Electric Cowgirl]

Hi all-

Just wondering if someone could explain what sector boundaries are and what they do/why are they important.  I now have cable internet (woohoo) and would like to properly upload some of my recordings.

[Brian Skalinder]

Ahem.    You know what's next, Becky.    Check the Archival Info section to learn about sector boundaries.

I use shntool, available at ETree, to verify my tracks do not have sector boundary problems.

[Simp-Dawg]

fwiw, there are no sector boundary issues with 24bit files, it is only a cd thang.

[Electric Cowgirl]

Simp- I didn't know that...I am planning on uploading some 16 bit stuff too.  

Brian- You are the KING of the archives!

Thanks guys!  +Ts...simp you will have to wait the 12 hours.

[mirth]

No matter what, as long as you use CDWAVE to cut your tracks then you won't have to worry about SBE's.

[Simp-Dawg]

No matter what, as long as you use CDWAVE to cut your tracks then you won't have to worry about SBE's.

except at the end of the file...i have had issues where cd wave doesn't cut on the correct sector boundary at the very end of the file ( i guess because it doesn't actually cut there and it's just how the recording software left it).  and i got in trouble with the phish community for seeding a show with sector boundary errors from the gorge.  the problem arose when i fit the end of 1st set and the start of 2nd set on the same disc, which fucked up the sector boundaries with the last track from set 1 being off.

[Electric Cowgirl]

No matter what, as long as you use CDWAVE to cut your tracks then you won't have to worry about SBE's.

Cool!  That's what I have been using for a while now.  +T

[dmonterisi]

No matter what, as long as you use CDWAVE to cut your tracks then you won't have to worry about SBE's.

except at the end of the file...i have had issues where cd wave doesn't cut on the correct sector boundary at the very end of the file ( i guess because it doesn't actually cut there and it's just how the recording software left it).  and i got in trouble with the phish community for seeding a show with sector boundary errors from the gorge.  the problem arose when i fit the end of 1st set and the start of 2nd set on the same disc, which fucked up the sector boundaries with the last track from set 1 being off.

to avoid this problem, i always shave the first tenth of a second and last tenth of a set of a second in cdwav.  eliminates the SBE issues.  only problem is you have to rename all the files, but that only takes a minute or so.

[mirth]

Yup, what Damon said... I do two cuesheets in cdwave - one that makes trash1.wav, actual-set.wav, and trash2.wav. The two trash files are just a couple milliseconds long.
Once that's done then I open up my real file & track it out / apply the real cuesheet.

[F.O.Bean]

also, if flacing afterwards, do NOT check 'align on sector boundaries'..i read an extensive article and even on the flac help it says there are errors if the box is checked, everything has bugs right??