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Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« on: November 05, 2011, 06:47:57 AM »
I have a set of Core Sound High-End Binaurals (dpa 4061) and an iPod Touch 4g.  Is it possible to purchase an app or something where I can record directly to the iPod?  Will the headphone out of the iPod also function as a microphone input?  Are there any apps that people recommend that will let me do basic things like set levels and export the finished file and such?  I realize that I'm probably limited to 16 bits, but it could be cool to play around with over here in a pinch.
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 10:49:56 AM »
:coolguy:  Here you go, Audiofile Engineering's Field Recorder App's [FiRe 2] and [FiRe Studio]...

[for 2 Channel Field Recording with iPod]
http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/fire/

http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/fire/techspecs.php


[for 8-Track Field Recording with iPod]
http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/firestudio/

http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/firestudio/techspecs.php


I've never used either of these but do use their Wave Editor software on my iMac for editing, tracking, red book CD's and flacs.
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 04:42:31 AM »
Downloaded FiRe 2 and tested it with the 4061s.  Works great, thanks for the recommendation!
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 06:00:36 AM »
Wow!
Check the levels to see if they are accurate.
Good going.
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 08:56:37 AM »
Pretty impressive. Would at least be useful to run as a backup out of my pre or something....
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 10:59:49 AM »
Does FiRE 2 record in stereo through the headphone jack?

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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 11:08:23 AM »
you still need a dock connector adaptor which has an analog stereo line in. Link for this?
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 11:13:23 AM »
So...this records through the headphone jack, with just the 4061's? No battery box, no special dock connector needed, nothing? How did you get your files off, via dropbox, soundcloud or some other method?
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 11:39:11 AM »
On their website, it says, "WARNING: Third-party analog input devices that utilize the dock connector will not work with iPhone 4, iPad or the 4th generation iPod touch", so it must be through the headphone jack.  I would imagine you still need a battery box...

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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 12:59:49 PM »
The headphone jack would be unsuitable, as it is mono. 4 conductors, left and right output, ground, and one for the mic input.

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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 12:28:04 AM »
Where is the stereo input? Or, for that matter, the eight-channel input?

Oh, never mind...found it.

http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/support/forums/read.php?10,4442

Of course, the Alesis ProTrack is the size of the iPod and costs $150...but it does have XLR inputs.
http://www.alesis.com/protrack

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http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/jam.php

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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 01:15:55 AM »
Seems like very poor information provided at the website!
They should say what extra gear you need to connect your inputs, and whether mic/line levels are needed.
They are more than willing to let you load and/or buy the software, but no directions???

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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2011, 08:19:38 AM »
Digging into this a bit, it seems that Apple phased out the stereo analog input (via the docking connector) after the iPhone 3 and 3rd generation iPod touch.  Looks like you can only get stereo on the iPhone 4, iPad or the 4th generation iPod touch via a USB audio interface through the docking connector (with an external ADC).  Apple sells a USB to docking connector adapter for the iPad, but I can't find anything about a similar device for the iPhone or iPod.  The headphone jack can be used, but (as noted by SkoobieKW) it's only mono...

EDIT:  This thread (coincidentally bumped up today) has some info on the same topic - http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=147264.0.
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Re: Use iPod Touch 4g to record shows?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 05:11:42 PM »
Sound Devices MixPre-D

"24-bit, class-compliant USB streaming output for interconnection with Mac OS, Windows, Linux, and select iOS devices, computer audio in MixPre-D headphones"

http://sounddevices.com/products/mixpre-d.htm
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