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Title: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: OOK on January 18, 2010, 12:16:20 PM
Can anyone recomend a high gig portable flac player?  I would love something the size of an ipod classic....just a player...good battery life......I don't need video....

peace OOK
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rastasean on January 24, 2010, 02:55:28 AM
I would consider the iriver. I use mine for that purpose because it has line out and multiple EQ settings. Usually they can be bought used for $75-125.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on January 24, 2010, 03:24:17 AM
12x12x12x=12=12/hdasdbn=12

hbd = 34
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Gordon on January 24, 2010, 03:30:54 AM
yea I use a 20 gig rockboxed iriver h120 for flac playback in the car.  some ipods can be rockboxed for flac as well but I hate ipods ;)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: dmonkey on January 24, 2010, 11:32:28 AM
I'm a big fan of my iHP-120 for FLAC playback in the car and on the home stereo.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: OOK on January 24, 2010, 01:30:10 PM
So far 32gig is the highest I found.......while respectable....I am still looking... I would like something the size of an ipod with 100gigs or more...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/641068-REG/Samsung_YP_P3JNB_XAA_YP_P3_MP3_Player_Black_.html
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rastasean on January 24, 2010, 01:33:28 PM
So far 32gig is the highest I found.......while respectable....I am still looking... I would like something the size of an ipod with 100gigs or more...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/641068-REG/Samsung_YP_P3JNB_XAA_YP_P3_MP3_Player_Black_.html

just carry around more than one hp-120, duh.

hah, just kidding

that samsung looks real nice. Too bad no expansion slots. let us know how it works for you.

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: OOK on January 24, 2010, 01:41:10 PM
I wish ipod would extend support for flac playback...that would solve my issue....
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: spyder9 on January 25, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
Zune plays Flac, doesn't it?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on January 25, 2010, 06:21:42 PM
Zune plays Flac, doesn't it?

No, it doesn't.

I think that the only thing that meets the OP's needs would be a Rockboxed iPod.  The Toshiba Gibabeat (the precursor to the Zune) can also be Rockboxed but I don't see support for the Zune itself on their list.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on January 25, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
i have a rockboxed iriver that play 24/96 flacs all day long, on the cheap.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Gordon on January 30, 2010, 01:12:55 PM
i have a rockboxed iriver that play 24/96 flacs all day long, on the cheap.

which one?  I now for a fact that the h120 doesn't.  well I think it will but it will resample/dither and play 16/44.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on January 30, 2010, 02:26:33 PM
a 20gig H-10, i can turn dither on or off.  been using it for almost 4 yrs now, i love it.  rockbox is a great resource.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Simp-Dawg on January 31, 2010, 06:36:29 PM
i have an old ipod 4g photo - 30gb, that has taken the backseat to the 8gb ipod touch i got free after rebate with the EDU discount for my macbook pro.  i decided to rockbox it (the older one), and so far i think it's a great idea!  you don't have to give up the regular ipod firmware, instead it's like having a "dual boot" machine.  you can still boot up into the normal ipod software by flipping the hold switch to on after you power it up, otherwise it will boot into rockbox by default.

i'm now de-selecting "sync music" in itunes to have it take all my old mp3s off it (for the time being) and will load it up with some flacs and see how it does.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jerazis on February 01, 2010, 11:45:22 PM
Cowan makes real nice stuff IMO. I own the the Cowan I audio. 60 gig drag and drop files into it just as they are from the torrents sites. This unit also acts as a USB hub so you can down load info/data onto it from another external usb device with out a computer. Not sure what there fancy newer unit is called but it has SD card back up and a nice touch screen.   
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: shaggy on February 02, 2010, 06:19:47 AM
If you got the patience to assemble and tinker:

H120: ZIF/IDE adapter, MK8025GAL (80GB) with RB and bootloader b7p4

H140: ZIF/IDE adapter, MK1214GAH (120GB) with RB and bootloader b7p4

If you want the best sound in portability add a iBasso D10 and a sysconcepts toslink>mini adapter.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: mattmiller on February 02, 2010, 08:07:09 AM
Cowan makes real nice stuff IMO. I own the the Cowan I audio. 60 gig drag and drop files into it just as they are from the torrents sites. This unit also acts as a USB hub so you can down load info/data onto it from another external usb device with out a computer. Not sure what there fancy newer unit is called but it has SD card back up and a nice touch screen.

Do the Cowan units support gapless FLAC playback yet?  That was the problem with them when I was in the market for something a year ago or so.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on February 02, 2010, 10:57:18 AM
I have an iAudio7 and there is a slight pause when changing tracks.  Not a two-second pause or anything like that but a very short track pause.  It doesn't bother me too much; I don't know about others.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Simp-Dawg on February 06, 2010, 01:12:48 PM
i have an old ipod 4g photo - 30gb, that has taken the backseat to the 8gb ipod touch i got free after rebate with the EDU discount for my macbook pro.  i decided to rockbox it (the older one), and so far i think it's a great idea!  you don't have to give up the regular ipod firmware, instead it's like having a "dual boot" machine.  you can still boot up into the normal ipod software by flipping the hold switch to on after you power it up, otherwise it will boot into rockbox by default.

i'm now de-selecting "sync music" in itunes to have it take all my old mp3s off it (for the time being) and will load it up with some flacs and see how it does.
just a quick update...
i've been running rockbox on my old ipod for about a week now and it's pretty nice.  you can still load it up with mp3s from your itunes music library, and the rockbox database will automatically pick up the files, or you can just drag and drop folders of flacs into it as well.  if they are tagged, rockbox will read that info too. 
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Tim on February 06, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
you don't have to give up the regular ipod firmware, instead it's like having a "dual boot" machine.  you can still boot up into the normal ipod software by flipping the hold switch to on after you power it up, otherwise it will boot into rockbox by default.

I had no idea that it became dual boot. That makes "rockboxing" far more attractive an option imo. May have to give it a shot with an old ipod so I can finally stop burning shows to cd every time I want to listen to them on the big system ::)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on February 06, 2010, 06:44:57 PM
burning cds?  huh?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Simp-Dawg on February 06, 2010, 09:15:52 PM
you don't have to give up the regular ipod firmware, instead it's like having a "dual boot" machine.  you can still boot up into the normal ipod software by flipping the hold switch to on after you power it up, otherwise it will boot into rockbox by default.

I had no idea that it became dual boot. That makes "rockboxing" far more attractive an option imo. May have to give it a shot with an old ipod so I can finally stop burning shows to cd every time I want to listen to them on the big system ::)
yeah it's pretty cool...
i will add though that i haven't been able to play with it all that much, seeing as how this ipod's hard drive and battery are dying and it's a crap shoot whether it will actually boot up at all sometimes ::) 
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Tim on February 06, 2010, 09:21:53 PM
burning cds?  huh?

I know, I'm a dinosaur ;D
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on February 13, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
burning cds?  huh?

I know, I'm a dinosaur ;D

Get a media client and a networked server and feed 24-bits into that bel-canto.  It's the green thing to do ;-)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: georgeh on February 16, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
forgive my ignorance, but..
do you have to have a power source, or does the iriver run off a usb port, in the car?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on February 16, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
my FM transmitter i use in my work van has a usb port so i can charge the player off of it, but i also have a cigarette adaptor to power it in my personal van since the head unit in it has a hard wire input and the FM thingy isnt needed.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: georgeh on February 16, 2010, 10:13:28 AM
thanks, my new(used) car has a usb connection in glove box. haven't made the move to ipod, would rather use flac device and this may be my answer.
I could use cig lighter as well if need be.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on February 16, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
new ride run on biodiesel too?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Tim on February 21, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
I know, I'm a dinosaur ;D

Get a media client and a networked server and feed 24-bits into that bel-canto.  It's the green thing to do ;-)
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oh yeah, I know. It's really a function of me just not listening to that many live tapes anymore to justify the setup. It'd be nice to have but it's hardly essential.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: baustin on February 23, 2010, 01:55:21 PM
i have an old ipod 4g photo - 30gb, that has taken the backseat to the 8gb ipod touch i got free after rebate with the EDU discount for my macbook pro.  i decided to rockbox it (the older one), and so far i think it's a great idea!  you don't have to give up the regular ipod firmware, instead it's like having a "dual boot" machine.  you can still boot up into the normal ipod software by flipping the hold switch to on after you power it up, otherwise it will boot into rockbox by default.

i'm now de-selecting "sync music" in itunes to have it take all my old mp3s off it (for the time being) and will load it up with some flacs and see how it does.
just a quick update...
i've been running rockbox on my old ipod for about a week now and it's pretty nice.  you can still load it up with mp3s from your itunes music library, and the rockbox database will automatically pick up the files, or you can just drag and drop folders of flacs into it as well.  if they are tagged, rockbox will read that info too.

Rockbox'd my 80GB ipod in November 2008, still going strong! http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=113768.0

and yes, it does "dualboot".
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Neilyboy on March 10, 2010, 08:18:04 AM
I recently grabbed a SanDisk Sansa Clip+ from amazon for under 50 bucks. I grabbed the 4 gig model but the cool thing is that it has a micro SD slot. So I can run a microSDHC card in there (what are they up to now like 32 gig) and have all kinds off flac goodness in something the size of a matchbook..

"The Sansa Clip+ MP3 player supports the most popular audio formats, including MP3, WMA, secure WMA, Audible, Ogg Vorbis, and FLAC."

The thing is friggin sweet menu is very nice if anyone has any questions hit me up.. It is rock solid!
Otherwise yeah I just use my iRivers either the H1xx or H3xx to play flac in the car..

Neil
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: airbladder on March 27, 2010, 11:28:42 AM
I like the Cowon stuff and the SanDisk Clip+.  Cowon is known for sounding great, play flac, and some take SDHC cards.  The Clip+ is super small, only plays music, and can take the micro SD cards.  With the internal memory and cards these players can hold a good amount of music.  I don't know of anything on the market that has an 80 or 100gb HD that plays flac out of the box.  I had a 60gb flac player and have gone to a smaller less expensive 24gb player.  At this point I would rather have something in my pocket or car that cost me 60$ than 200+$. 
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jtblackmore on March 27, 2010, 04:47:58 PM


Here is your answer. Archos 500gig player that also plays FLAC. Largest capacity of any portable device I have seen.

http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en (http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en)

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Colin Liston on April 01, 2010, 03:44:47 PM
SanDisk Fuse on sale at Amazon $34 with free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000W09ZTK/ref=nosim/mmbevigaotst-20
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: georgeh on April 15, 2010, 10:26:36 AM
SanDisk Fuse on sale at Amazon $34 with free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000W09ZTK/ref=nosim/mmbevigaotst-20

You all are talking about flac players, so i guess this does play flacs, but didn't see that listed on the description?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: ts on April 15, 2010, 01:43:43 PM
Grab a 160gb Ipod classic and rockbox it. 220 new at walmart for 7th gen.  I think used 6th gens go for ~150.


edit: 160gb iPod classic is not yet supported by rockbox. :(
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Colin Liston on April 15, 2010, 06:49:47 PM
SanDisk Fuse on sale at Amazon $34 with free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000W09ZTK/ref=nosim/mmbevigaotst-20

You all are talking about flac players, so i guess this does play flacs, but didn't see that listed on the description?

It does play FLACs, it is buried in the specs on the sandisk site.
Feature List

http://www.sandisk.com/products/sansa-music-and-video-players/sandisk-sansa-clipplus-mp3-player-

Supports MP3, WMA, secure WMA, Audible, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, plus audio books and podcasts
Expandable microSDTM and microSDHCTM memory card slot grows with your music library and easily loads slotRadioTM or slotMusicTM cards **

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: georgeh on April 16, 2010, 06:44:40 PM
thanks Colin. i picked that one up on amazon, seemed to be what i was looking for.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: JackoRoses on April 17, 2010, 12:10:05 PM
with those rockboxed ipods is there anyway to transfer the music to them without installing
the evil empire apple software?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on April 17, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
yes rockbox makes it appear as another drive, just like an external or thumb drive would appear..  drag and drop new music in the music folder and enjoy.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rigpimp on April 17, 2010, 03:31:00 PM
I found a 40GB Toshiba Gigabeat (F-series) to be awesome for file storage, file transfer and playback including 24 bit FLAC after loading Rockbox on it.  I picked up mine brand new on Craigslist for $100.

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: JackoRoses on April 17, 2010, 03:33:34 PM
yes rockbox makes it appear as another drive, just like an external or thumb drive would appear..  drag and drop new music in the music folder and enjoy.
thank you kindly :D
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: phr on May 18, 2010, 08:51:31 AM
I don't think it's possible to rockbox an ipod classic.  You have to get a 5th generation 60gb or 5.5 generation 80gb to install the 240gb drive from apricorn.  I see those ipod versions on woot sometimes though, and there's always fleabay.

If 48gb is enough, Cowon D2 with a 32gb sdhc card is a nice combo with good sound.

The Archos IT5 is mostly a video player, large and full of bugs, with SQ not so great.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Belexes on June 08, 2010, 04:57:24 PM
I recently grabbed a SanDisk Sansa Clip+ from amazon for under 50 bucks. I grabbed the 4 gig model but the cool thing is that it has a micro SD slot. So I can run a microSDHC card in there (what are they up to now like 32 gig) and have all kinds off flac goodness in something the size of a matchbook..

"The Sansa Clip+ MP3 player supports the most popular audio formats, including MP3, WMA, secure WMA, Audible, Ogg Vorbis, and FLAC."

The thing is friggin sweet menu is very nice if anyone has any questions hit me up.. It is rock solid!
Otherwise yeah I just use my iRivers either the H1xx or H3xx to play flac in the car..

Neil

Now just $40 shipped from Dell:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/All_MP3_Players/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A3099600&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643&acd=10550055-1225267-u0t0f0fp35166c0s441#Overview

 :D
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: tapeworm48 on June 09, 2010, 10:35:35 AM
For those people using these players in the car, what kind of FM transmitters are people using to get playback on the car stereo?  I've never owned any of them before, but from what i've seen/heard from friends, there weren't any great, reliable options.

FWIW I have been using a Cowon iAudio 7 for my portable FLAC playback.  Sounds good and is small in size. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Neilyboy on June 09, 2010, 03:43:22 PM
For those people using these players in the car, what kind of FM transmitters are people using to get playback on the car stereo?  I've never owned any of them before, but from what i've seen/heard from friends, there weren't any great, reliable options.

FWIW I have been using a Cowon iAudio 7 for my portable FLAC playback.  Sounds good and is small in size. 

Thanks.

I tell ya what. I have been very happy with my $3.50 purchase from here.

http://www.buyincoins.com/car-kit-mp3-player-foldable-fm-transmitter-for-sd-mmc-usb-cd-02-product-1097.html

Only took about a week for it to get here and they shipped it the day I ordered... I have used a bunch of the cheap fm transmitters in the past and this is about the best out of all of the cheap batch. then again ymmv as it depends on where you are located and what is being broadcast if it will work as well for you.

throw in your zip and state you are located in and this site will give you the best chans to use (fairly accurate here in central illinois).
http://www.belkin.com/mybestfm/

neil
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: bobbygeeWOW on June 09, 2010, 08:47:19 PM
FWIW, I never liked any of the FM transmitters I tried, even in a crappy listening space like my truck.
(Gotta drown out the sound of flapping beaten old tires somehow! :) )
Best bang for buck by far was buying a new fairly inexpensive generic stereo that has an aux port on the front.

And then stepping up from the headphone-jack out to the audio-out on the bottom of the rockboxed ipod.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: mattmiller on June 09, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
FWIW I have been using a Cowon iAudio 7 for my portable FLAC playback.  Sounds good and is small in size. 

Isn't that only 4 GB though?  An 8-disk CD changer holds that much music.  I've spent hours upon hours looking for something that is truly "high gig" (minimum 40 GB, I guess; ideally 100 GB or more), will play 24-bit FLACs, and will play them seamlessly.  I've turned up nothing.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rastasean on June 09, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
I recently grabbed a SanDisk Sansa Clip+ from amazon for under 50 bucks.


I believe I'm going to be picking this up when its back in stock. 8 gigs internal with additional support of micro sd, sweet. I got a 2 gig card that I can put in there and make it ten.

I think I'll be fine with 10 gigs of music since it would be hard for me to pick a song/album if I had a 100 gigs to choose from.

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: tapeworm48 on June 10, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
FWIW I have been using a Cowon iAudio 7 for my portable FLAC playback.  Sounds good and is small in size. 

Isn't that only 4 GB though?  An 8-disk CD changer holds that much music.  I've spent hours upon hours looking for something that is truly "high gig" (minimum 40 GB, I guess; ideally 100 GB or more), will play 24-bit FLACs, and will play them seamlessly.  I've turned up nothing.

Mine is 8GB, and there was a 16GB option 2+ yrs ago when I made the purchase.

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Simp-Dawg on June 11, 2010, 03:53:02 PM
FWIW, I never liked any of the FM transmitters I tried, even in a crappy listening space like my truck.
(Gotta drown out the sound of flapping beaten old tires somehow! :) )
Best bang for buck by far was buying a new fairly inexpensive generic stereo that has an aux port on the front.

And then stepping up from the headphone-jack out to the audio-out on the bottom of the rockboxed ipod.
i didn't realize the ipod dock audio-out worked with rockbox?  at least, it certainly didn't work with my crappy car stereo's ipod connector...but i have a standalone dock that outputs through a stereo jack at home i could try...
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: bobbygeeWOW on June 11, 2010, 04:02:56 PM
Yep works fine on everything I've tried it on - occasionally the associated remote controls work too, but I can always listen to stuff by selecting the music on the ipod itself.
(which for me mostly means selecting a 3-hour show and not touching it again for a while)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jibooer on June 12, 2010, 02:35:38 PM
Speaking of rockboxed iPods...has anyone tried using this with Yamaha's Ipod docking station (http://www.yamaha.ca/av/Receivers/YDS11.jsp)       (attached to Yamaha receiver). I am wondering if rockboxing it in order to play flacs will make the dock useless.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on July 09, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
My Cowon iAudio 7 is slowly failing after a couple years of very heavy use.  I am looking at the Cowon iAudio 9 or the Sansa Fuze as a replacement.  I see that the Fuze accepts SD cards.  Is it possible to have gapless FLAC playback when playing music off the SD card in the Fuze?  I assume that this question would also pertain to Clip+ owners.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Kush on July 09, 2010, 10:44:53 PM
What about the HiFiMAN HM801? Link: http://www.hifiman.us/Products/?pid=71 (http://www.hifiman.us/Products/?pid=71)
Saw it advertised in Stereophile but haven't looked into it as of yet.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on July 09, 2010, 11:53:55 PM
What about the HiFiMAN HM801? Link: http://www.hifiman.us/Products/?pid=71 (http://www.hifiman.us/Products/?pid=71)
Saw it advertised in Stereophile but haven't looked into it as of yet.

I saw that today myself.  Costs $750, battery life is 6-8 hours, and can't play gapless files.  It can play 24/96 FLAC, which is something that no other player can do.  I'm not buying one.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Kush on July 10, 2010, 01:09:58 AM
Screw that thing, way too much $$$ and can't play gapless files. So much for that idea.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jibooer on July 26, 2010, 12:34:01 PM
thinking about pulling the trigger on a SansaClip+...is there any problem playing 24bit FLACs on this puppy?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Colin Liston on July 26, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
I'm not sure they make this any more but Kenwood's Music Keg played FLACs.  Not sure why this type thing didn't catch on.

The KHD-C710 Kenwood Music Keg lets you enjoy a huge music collection in your car - its transportable 10GB DMS cartridge can hold up to 2,500 of your songs at standard MP3 compression - as easily as playing CDs or listening to the radio.The KHD-C710 includes Kenwood PhatNoise Music Manager PC software, a USB docking cradle that connects to your PC and can be used with multiple computers, a 10GB DMS cartridge featuring internal shock-absorbing suspension and the Kenwood Music Keg unit. The Music Manager software makes it easy to rip and collect music on your computer in MP3, WMA, WAV and FLAC formats, and it even lets you get audiobooks and other spoken-word files from Audible.com. You can organize them all into custom playlists, and Music Manager's Dynamic Playlist capability will even automatically update the playlists as you get new music. Then insert the DMS cartridge into the docking cradle and transfer your music. The DMS cartridge is small enough to fit in your shirt pocket, so bringing your collection to your car couldn't be easier. The Kenwood Music Keg unit installs and connects just like a CD changer - simply insert the cartridge and you're ready to roll. The KHD-C710 is compatible with most 2002 and many 2001 - 1998 Kenwood in-dash receivers, or use the KCA-R70FM adapter and you can add the KHD-C710 to any car stereo that has an FM radio.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jibooer on July 26, 2010, 06:05:54 PM
just fyi - the sansa clip+ does not support 24 bit FLAC playback, only 16 bit.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on July 26, 2010, 07:40:18 PM
but my crusty old iriver does....rockboxed of course.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: weroflu on October 21, 2010, 02:02:20 AM
stupid question, but why can't these players accept regular laptop drives which would give you upwards of 500 gigs?

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on October 21, 2010, 08:44:39 PM
Because of the physical size of the laptop drive would make the device an unacceptable size for most consumer applications.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Soling on October 31, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
Probably old news to many here, but there now is a App you can download to play flacs on you  i phone 4.  Works fine with 16bit flac files.  Haven't tried 24 bit yet.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on November 01, 2010, 06:16:01 PM
Probably old news to many here, but there now is a App you can download to play flacs on you  i phone 4.  Works fine with 16bit flac files.  Haven't tried 24 bit yet.

News to me.  What is the name of the app?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: H₂O on November 01, 2010, 07:28:55 PM
VLC - free
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: weroflu on November 02, 2010, 05:02:06 AM
is there a  player like an ipod  that will accept 2.5" laptop drives? (doesn't have to be as small as an ipod)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rastasean on November 02, 2010, 05:19:10 PM
is there a  player like an ipod  that will accept 2.5" laptop drives? (doesn't have to be as small as an ipod)

what size hard drives do  the iriver h1xx and 3xx series use?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: bobstammers on November 02, 2010, 05:29:26 PM
is there a  player like an ipod  that will accept 2.5" laptop drives? (doesn't have to be as small as an ipod)

what size hard drives do  the iriver h1xx and 3xx series use?

Same as the ipod. (4th gen at least) When I swapped my H340 drive over I bought a ipod drive off ebay and it worked no problem. If size isn't an  issue then the H1xx or H3xx irivers rockboxed are ideal as flac players.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: scb on November 03, 2010, 02:41:55 PM
is there a  player like an ipod  that will accept 2.5" laptop drives? (doesn't have to be as small as an ipod)


it can't be, considering a 2.5 inch drive is bigger than an ipod :)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rastasean on November 03, 2010, 03:53:05 PM
is there a  player like an ipod  that will accept 2.5" laptop drives? (doesn't have to be as small as an ipod)


it can't be, considering a 2.5 inch drive is bigger than an ipod :)

haha. nice! I didn't think those things used hdd anymore. I know my second generation 20 gig was a hard drive. at least I think it was a second generation.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: tapeworm48 on November 18, 2010, 10:06:55 AM

Has anyone used the iAudio 9 from Cowon?  I own the iAudio 7 which I love, except for the fact that the FLAC playback is not gapless.  Curious to know if they fixed that....
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: travelinbeat on November 18, 2010, 04:38:48 PM
is there a  player like an ipod  that will accept 2.5" laptop drives? (doesn't have to be as small as an ipod)


it can't be, considering a 2.5 inch drive is bigger than an ipod :)

haha. nice! I didn't think those things used hdd anymore. I know my second generation 20 gig was a hard drive. at least I think it was a second generation.

They moved away from HDD to solid state for one generation (4? 5?), but then I guess the market went crazy over the smaller capacity and iPod went back to the crap HDD routine.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on November 27, 2010, 07:44:00 AM

Has anyone used the iAudio 9 from Cowon?  I own the iAudio 7 which I love, except for the fact that the FLAC playback is not gapless.  Curious to know if they fixed that....

"Santa" just ordered one of those for me for Christmas, but I haven't tried it out yet.  From what I understand, the gapless FLAC issue is addressed, but again, I cannot verify this for myself.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on November 27, 2010, 03:16:54 PM
wookies works great.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: teamdrink on December 06, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
Check out the Archos 5 500gb with Android

http://www.squidoo.com/portable-flac-player-comparisons
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: mattmiller on December 06, 2010, 09:49:54 AM
Check out the Archos 5 500gb with Android

http://www.squidoo.com/portable-flac-player-comparisons

Any idea if it plays them gaplessly?  What about 24-bit?  I can't find any mention of either of these on the product specs page.

http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5/specs.html
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on December 24, 2010, 10:48:50 PM

Has anyone used the iAudio 9 from Cowon?  I own the iAudio 7 which I love, except for the fact that the FLAC playback is not gapless.  Curious to know if they fixed that....

"Santa" just ordered one of those for me for Christmas, but I haven't tried it out yet.  From what I understand, the gapless FLAC issue is addressed, but again, I cannot verify this for myself.

Just unwrapped my new i9 and am listening to it now.  Can confirm that it plays gapless FLAC files (listening to The Wall now).  16 bit only; I believe that the Hifiman players are the only ones that can play 24 bit, unless there is some app that does it for the iPods.  Hifiman players are not gapless and are reported to have a rolled off treble, however, which is not what I want from a player that costs a minimum of $250.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Flip on December 27, 2010, 05:49:05 PM
Saw this link on etree today.  Did not realize that there that many flac players around.


http://www.squidoo.com/portable-flac-player-comparisons


Flip
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rigpimp on December 27, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
I'll be damned if I haven't lost my second Gigabeat player already!  I hope that it is packed away in one of my boxes!
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: weroflu on January 14, 2011, 08:02:48 AM
can someone recommend a 320gb 1.8" hard drive portable flac player?

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: ben_r_ on February 06, 2012, 01:04:32 PM
Bumping this thread to see if any new suggestions are out there. What are you all using now?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Belexes on February 06, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
Based on this thread, I am buying a Cowan J3 8 GB.  I have a micro SD card to increase the capacity. 
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jlykos on February 07, 2012, 03:16:40 AM
iPod Touch 4g with the FLAC Player app.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: dnsacks on February 07, 2012, 06:13:09 PM
my buddy is playing 24/96 flac files on his motorola android without resampling, so that's another option to consider.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rigpimp on February 07, 2012, 08:57:48 PM
Again, anything Rockbox flavor should work.  Who knows, you may already have one of these already lying around...

http://build.rockbox.org/

I :heart: my Toshiba Gigabeat.  40GB of FLAC/SHN/Whatever
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: phr on March 09, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
Wow, this old thread still alive :).  Recently someone reported that the Cowon D2 can accept SDXC cards if you format them to FAT32.  So you can put a 128GB card into a D2.  I think I'd just get that and call it a day.  The 128gb cards cost around $170 and I figure that 256gb cards will be arriving soon (since they now have 64gb micro cards, and the full size card is about 4x as large physically).  The 64gb microsdxc's are currently $135 so still much higher $/gb than a 32gb card or a full sized 64gb, but if you are flush you can use one in a Sansa Clip+/Fuze or Cowon C2/J3/whatever.  These all have good SQ.

The Archos 48 (500gb Android 1.6 player) is discontinued but adorama.com still has some around $200.  I'm slightly tempted because I figure once they're gone, nothing like that will be made any more.  I think it uses a laptop sata drive so you can upgrade it to 1TB.  SQ is supposedly not too bad, but maybe not as good as Cowon or Sansa.  There is also the Cowon x7 which is a 160gb hard drive player that's gotten some favorable comments, though it's kind of big and expensive for my tastes (I'd want a hd player to have 500gb or more).  The Archos also has a USB host port so there's a chance you could set it up with an external DAC/amp, giving you an ultra capacity audiophile rig that's still reasonably portable.

Using any type of handheld electronics while driving a car is apparently illegal here in California and you can get a ticket for it.  I guess I can sort of understand that it takes more cognitive effort to operate something that's not on a fixed mount of some sort.  I bought an in-dash player with an aux input a while back but I find I never use the feature, so I'd go for a pure in-dash player for car use now.  There are probably some that play flac.

I've used car FM transmitters a few times and they just totally suck, especially in urban areas (strong broadcast signals and no empty channels).  They might be useful in some last ditch situations when it's someone else's car and you're out in the boonies, but if you're setting up your own system it's far better to avoid.  Bluetooth ad2p is probably ok but I haven't tried it.

The hifiman player got pretty bad comments on ABI, apparently it's not that great an audiophile device, more of a high-$$$ gizmo for its own sake.  There's a new comparable unit from iBasso that sounds like a hifiman "done right" though comparably expensive (way out of my range so I didn't pay close attention).  I'm not convinced 24 bit is worth it for portable use.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: weroflu on March 10, 2012, 07:15:02 AM
not necessarily relevant but,

mounted   a 1tb hard drive to a samsung galaxy s1 phone. decent to more than decent sound quality
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: George on March 12, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
phr, let us know how that D2+128GB SDXC card works out.   I've kinda been in the market for a new mp3/flac player for ages and been holding out.  100+gigs would be ideal.

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: phr on March 23, 2012, 03:31:54 AM
phr, let us know how that D2+128GB SDXC card works out.   I've kinda been in the market for a new mp3/flac player for ages and been holding out.  100+gigs would be ideal.
Georgios, a number of folks on iaudiophile.net (the Cowon users forum) are using this setup and they say it works ok.  You could check there or ask people about it there.  I will probably get one of those cards for my D2 eventually, but not very soon, because the cards are still pretty expensive and I don't need the space yet.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: SmokinJoe on August 01, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
Is the iRiver the only small device out there with digi-out?  My H120 is getting very tired (computer won't mount it any more).  I use it with earbuds, but also run the optical to the living room stereo. I'd be a little bummed if I had to get something with only analog out.

If not, I'm looking for something else that will play flac....  decent sized... my iRiver is 20gb, I could deal with 16, but not 8.  I want something with standard USB storage.  I like Rockbox, but I'm not absolutely stuck on it.

Sansa Clip Zip and Sansa Fuze+ seem to be pretty reasonable on ebay.  Is the audio quality decent?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: mattmiller on August 02, 2012, 09:17:36 PM
I can't speak to devices with digi-out, but I've been very impressed with the Cowon J3 (analog only).  It's widely considered to be among the best (if not the best) in terms of sound quality, and it offers more capacity than the iRiver.  It comes with 32 GB internally, and then accepts a microSDHC card with another 32 GB.  It's not cheap, though.  I think I paid around $250 for the 32 GB model a year ago or so, plus whatever the extra microSDHC card cost at that time.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jagraham on August 27, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
so i take it the sansa clip+ plays FLAC gapless but only after installing rockbox?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jagraham on September 09, 2012, 08:07:33 PM
^ Ill answer my own question with a yes.  Great recommendation on the sansa clip+ with rockbox!  if you wait until some 32g cards go on sale its a great little player for little $.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Belexes on October 22, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
If Cowan puts out anything replacing the J3, I'd appreciate a posting in this thread. I *love* my J3, but am curious what may be next for Cowan.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jagraham on June 28, 2013, 12:09:30 PM
My Sansa Clip+ has worked great since last year but I now might be seeing that I got what I paid for. The output jack is messed up, I have to tap and twist the miniplug or I only get the right channel. As there is movement, I hear static so I'm assuming it's a faulty output.. At first I thought something was wrong with all my headphones and cables so at least that's not the problem...
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: dnsacks on June 28, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
fwiw, iphones support apple lossless at up to 24/48 -- super easy to set up foobar2000 to convert from flac to apple lossless (preserving tags/metadata).
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on June 28, 2013, 01:21:43 PM
hope it does better than their stocks. :yack:
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: dyneq on June 28, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
My Sansa Clip+ has worked great since last year but I now might be seeing that I got what I paid for. The output jack is messed up, I have to tap and twist the miniplug or I only get the right channel. As there is movement, I hear static so I'm assuming it's a faulty output.. At first I thought something was wrong with all my headphones and cables so at least that's not the problem...

That sounds like it could be a dirty plug and/or jack. I use and like the Caig DeOxit D-Series cleaner. They also make a nice brush which fits inside the jack. I also use it for my recorder and it has saved the day for my other stuff (powered speakers, amps, etc).

I have a Rockboxed Fuze which I love, but the battery is starting to lose it's life. I'm thinking about getting a Clip+ to replace the Fuze and an old iPod Shuffle i use for running. Do you run the stock firmware or Rockbox?
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: jagraham on July 01, 2013, 01:50:56 PM
^ Rockbox and it's really convenient, I'll check into that suggestion, thanks.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: rigpimp on July 01, 2013, 04:37:09 PM
I bought the Sansa Clip+ for my ex-gf and put rockbox on it.  It is super small so hard to read text on the screen and it is nearly all plastic so construction is very cheap.  I would not expect it to last long for $25 or whatever I paid for it.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 03, 2013, 01:49:49 AM
Sorry for the slight thread highjack, but I have [2] iPod Classics[160GB] and [1] 120GB Zune. I LOVE my [2] iPods, but I am looking for something/anything that has a bigger capacity than just a 160GB iPod. Is there anything out there like that ??? MP3 preferred :)

TIA,
Bean
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: bluntforcetrauma on August 14, 2013, 10:26:10 PM
Hello, any good suggestions on how and what to use to get itouch (1st gen) or ipod to 1. play FLAC, 2. use in car playing thru car stereo?  in reading the thread I have not seen any good ways to ensure quality sound with FLAC in the car?

or if the car solution eludes....

Just what is the best way to use ipod, or itouch> in order to play FLAC>head phones

I have for years just FLAC>WAV>ipod/itouch
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: keytohwy on August 15, 2013, 12:11:28 AM
Sorry for the slight thread highjack, but I have [2] iPod Classics[160GB] and [1] 120GB Zune. I LOVE my [2] iPods, but I am looking for something/anything that has a bigger capacity than just a 160GB iPod. Is there anything out there like that ??? MP3 preferred :)

TIA,
Bean

Buy a dead iPod and drop a 240GB drive in it...
Title: Flac portable player
Post by: aekold on August 15, 2013, 07:27:44 AM
I'm looking for a portable player too.

I want it to be gapless. I don't need a high capacity player, 32go will be enough or with a SDHC or microSD port.

My botlegs are in flac 24 bits.

I had a sansa clip but it is dead now.

My first choice is cowon J3 but it's not easy to find.

Perhaps do you know another choice ?

Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: anodyne33 on September 16, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
Okay kids, riddle me this... why is the Sansa Clip Zip less expensive on Amazon (by about 50%) than the Clip+ when it appears (from the SanDisk website) that the Zip is supposed to be the more upscale version?

Is the Clip+ being discontinued? Not distributed in the USA? Folks getting hip to it's value?

And if I were to RockBox a Sansa, what does that do for me? I drag and drop with my current one as is, and don't have much to bitch about with the software.


(and I'm saying this after finding my trusty old (way old) original Sansa in the washing machine last night  :facepalm:)
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: Jimna on September 16, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
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Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: dyneq on September 16, 2013, 04:52:49 PM
I don't know why the Clip models are priced the way they are. Whenever my Shuffle dies, I'll probably get one of these to replace it.

I'm using a Fuze with Rockbox. I prefer it over the factory firmware because it has gapless playback and can play AAC. It has been a rock solid combination for me with 8GB internal and a 16GB card.
Title: Re: High Gig Portable Flac Player recomendations
Post by: anodyne33 on September 17, 2013, 10:52:37 AM
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Thanks Jim. You're so helpful.  :P


wookie.