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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: (Evan) on February 21, 2009, 02:37:02 AM
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So for recording live theatre, I've always mounted my omni microphones to the top of my ears. I'm going to record some shows for the first time with cardioid caps soon, and I was wondering if this technique would be suitable for them as well? The ear mounting works great for binaural recordings....but will it give me good stereo separation with cardioids? Thanks.
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does that not hurt ? I would assume it would work just as well, maybe even better if they're padded.
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Doesn't hurt at all. I just wrap the wire around my ear once and then bring the mic under the loop to make a "knot". Mic sticks out forward and stays in place nicely.
What do you mean by padded?
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I use cardiods on croakies and they are on my ears. Been happy so far with live music. Go for it.
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Generally speaking (ie not talking specifically about stealth), you need to be more precise placing cards compared to omnis.
For best results, try to imitate one of the standardized configurations (DIN, ORTF etc), or just point them towards the stacks.
Also, using cards, they don't benefit as much from your head (or any other opaque body) being in between the mics, as a binaural set would do.
If they just stick out perpendicular on the sides, the pickup pattern will emphasize crowd chatter instead of music... But I guess you already know that.
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Generally speaking (ie not talking specifically about steath), you need to be more precise placing cards compared to omnis.
For best results, try to imitate one of the standardized configurations (DIN, ORTF etc), or just point them towards the stacks.
Also, using cards, they don't benefit as much from your head (or any other opaque body) being in between the mics, as a binaural set would do.
If they just stick out perpendicular on the sides, the pickup pattern will emphasize crowd chatter instead of music... But I guess you already know that.
I disagree I have often placed cards on ether side of my head for very good stereo separation.
Chris
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Generally speaking (ie not talking specifically about steath), you need to be more precise placing cards compared to omnis.
For best results, try to imitate one of the standardized configurations (DIN, ORTF etc), or just point them towards the stacks.
Also, using cards, they don't benefit as much from your head (or any other opaque body) being in between the mics, as a binaural set would do.
If they just stick out perpendicular on the sides, the pickup pattern will emphasize crowd chatter instead of music... But I guess you already know that.
I disagree I have often placed cards on ether side of my head for very good stereo separation.
Chris
Exactly! And it looks geeky too...
The main thing IMO is to keep the mics a bit away from your head (however you like to mount them) so that they still get air around them and maintain their directionality. I've made some very nice recordings this way, using your mics (Chris), Sennheiser MKE40, and AT853 subcards.
Richard
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Generally speaking (ie not talking specifically about steath), you need to be more precise placing cards compared to omnis.
For best results, try to imitate one of the standardized configurations (DIN, ORTF etc), or just point them towards the stacks.
Also, using cards, they don't benefit as much from your head (or any other opaque body) being in between the mics, as a binaural set would do.
If they just stick out perpendicular on the sides, the pickup pattern will emphasize crowd chatter instead of music... But I guess you already know that.
I disagree I have often placed cards on ether side of my head for very good stereo separation.
Chris
Exactly! And it looks geeky too...
The main thing IMO is to keep the mics a bit away from your head (however you like to mount them) so that they still get air around them and maintain their directionality. I've made some very nice recordings this way, using your mics (Chris), Sennheiser MKE40, and AT853 subcards.
Richard
You dont need to make space around your head if you dont want to. The Shure SM91 and other mics made by Crown that are phase coherent cardioid's all use a boundary with no ill effect to frequency response. The pattern is altered somewhat but the resulting sound is amazing with amazing stereo separation that plays back nicely on speakers.
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You dont need to make space around your head if you dont want to. The Shure SM91 and other mics made by Crown that are phase coherent cardioid's all use a boundary with no ill effect to frequency response.
Interesting conversation!
Are you certain about the model number? They might sound good, but I have a hard time imagining these mounted to my ears: ???
(http://www.llprod.no/Lydutstyr/img130.jpg)
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You dont need to make space around your head if you dont want to. The Shure SM91 and other mics made by Crown that are phase coherent cardioid's all use a boundary with no ill effect to frequency response.
Interesting conversation!
Are you certain about the model number? They might sound good, but I have a hard time imagining these mounted to my ears: ???
(http://www.llprod.no/Lydutstyr/img130.jpg)
LOL I was only talking about the specific application of the use of a boundary on a cardioid mic :) Not that you should strap these to your head. Although that would be funny...
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You dont need to make space around your head if you dont want to. The Shure SM91 and other mics made by Crown that are phase coherent cardioid's all use a boundary with no ill effect to frequency response.
Interesting conversation!
Are you certain about the model number? They might sound good, but I have a hard time imagining these mounted to my ears: ???
(http://www.llprod.no/Lydutstyr/img130.jpg)
Princess Leah could pull it off!
LOL I was only talking about the specific application of the use of a boundary on a cardioid mic :) Not that you should strap these to your head. Although that would be funny...