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Title: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: The Other Chris on May 03, 2015, 01:39:31 AM

Assuming I'm recording loudish shows I believe it's best to use the gain on the pre as much as possible; keeping the recording level on the R09 lower right?  Isn't it best somewhere around 13 or 14?  Appreciate any suggestions, thanks.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: yousef on May 03, 2015, 04:08:34 AM

That's what I always did with AT853s>9100>R09. Maybe a touch higher with the R09's gain... Don't think I ever went as high as 20 though.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: The Other Chris on May 03, 2015, 07:36:12 PM

Sounds good, thanks for the feedback.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: robeti on May 04, 2015, 08:07:10 PM

More info here:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=152494.0

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: OhioHead on May 04, 2015, 09:07:20 PM

Same thought process would apply if using a M-10, correct higher gain & lower recording level on the deck?

Will read the link in a few moments.......

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: aaronji on May 05, 2015, 09:04:27 AM

^^^ To a point, anyway.  It is possible to overload the M10's input and yet have the gain wheel low enough that the meters don't register clipping ("brickwalling").  This might also be possible on the R09, but I am not sure. 

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on May 05, 2015, 10:48:27 AM

The r09 is a good recorder with excellent sound when used line-in. However, don't ever run it below 8. It distorts below that point. It is an internal brickwall issue that will not be seen on the meters.  Not going below 11 is safer.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: Gutbucket on May 05, 2015, 11:58:06 AM

^^^
Just confirming this as best practice for the original R-09 line-on.
I was never comfortable with it's input gain set below 10, and usually kept it around 13-15.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: The Other Chris on May 05, 2015, 12:55:21 PM

Thanks again for the specifics, appreciate it.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: nak700s on May 10, 2015, 05:19:02 PM

My stealth rig is the CA-14c > CA 9200 > Edirol R-09HR.  The numbering on the record levels are different on the R-09 and the R-09HR, so I will leave it to you to figure out the conversion.  I get great results running the R-09HR around 40 with the gain on the 9200 at +30.  The volume on the 9200 is hovering around the half way point to a little past half way (I would estimate it at about a 6).  This is for a concert in a major venue.  I hope I've helped.

As for using the CA equip. with the Sony PCM-M10, I generally have the CA stuff at the same numbers and the M10 at around 4ish...in a bar/small club atmosphere.

Title: Re: CA-14's>pre amp>R09 questions
Post by: rhinowing on May 11, 2015, 05:36:18 PM

Quote from: Gutbucket on May 05, 2015, 11:58:06 AM

^^^
Just confirming this as best practice for the original R-09 line-on.
I was never comfortable with it's input gain set below 10, and usually kept it around 13-15.

thirded. running below 8 results in a super asymmetrical waveform