Topic: what pattern do you perfer when stealthing?

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[kinglerxst]

>Mounting mics on your head works fine when not moving your head. I have heard too many recordings with cards, close to the >sound source, going out of phase from head movement. Completely wrecks what could have been a good recording.

That's true, omni's are more forgiving with some head movement. However, I find it easier to control head movement than to control the "screamin' cheetah wheelies" that can surround you and ruin a recording even more than some phasing from cards. You can't control the crowd, but more times than not, the cards pattern have saved a recording that would have been ruined running omni's.

Of course, omni's can be real nice if you have a good crowd around you, but that's a crapshoot at best even taping openly.

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[kinglerxst]

>But I don't like to wear a cap

I don't like it either, but I do it for concerts, the benefits far outweigh a couple/few hours of having to wear one. They can be removed after the show is over


>and have to keep my head still all the time

You don't have to keep your head still "all" the time. I still move my head at times and stretch my neck, etc. I just do it between songs/intermissions/etc. where it doesn't affect anything. Again, the benefits of doing it for a couple/few hours at a concert far outweighs not doing it.

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[sparkey]

Hypercards all the way

[easyed]

I have used quality omnis (DPA 4061s) in a small hall well tuned for classical music, sitting in the absolute center of the absolute front row, among a quiet crowd, and still got too much room for my tastes.  I much prefer cardiod mics (my CK930s are my current favorites).  Regards where to mount your mics, avoid places where fabric can rub against them when checking recorder or making other movements.

[kinglerxst]

>still got too much room for my tastes.  I much prefer cardiod mics

I've pretty much been strictly a cardioid user as I didn't care much for the bi-products of the omni's, too much room being one as you stated, but I've been getting to like the sub-cardioids alot as they give a little more of the good part of the omni feel while keeping the advantages of the normal cards.

Do the Beyer's offer a sub-card cap? There's not a ton of stealthy style mics that do offer that pattern I guess.

[Cheesecadet]

I prefer omnis at loud shows because if the music is loud enough you won't hear chatter anyway.  I also like the better bass response that omnis give you.

That said, I have made very good recordings using cards as well.  It really depends on your preference.

Both patterns can have nice results, location is the key!

[F.O.Bean]

Hypercards all the way

[barrettphisher]

Hypercards all the way
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[George]

Depending on far you are from the PA/stage, honestly.   I think cards, hypers or omnis are pretty self explanatory.

[sparkey]

Hypercards all the way
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